Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size

"Darrel Lewis (darlewis)" <darlewis@cisco.com> Mon, 04 November 2013 00:30 UTC

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From: "Darrel Lewis (darlewis)" <darlewis@cisco.com>
To: Luigi Iannone <ggx@gigix.net>
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Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 00:30:44 +0000
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Subject: Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size
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On Nov 3, 2013, at 2:46 PM, Luigi Iannone <ggx@gigix.net> wrote:

> 
> On 3 Nov. 2013, at 14:35 , Sander Steffann <sander@steffann.nl> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>>> you are right. But IMHO this is one possible economic model.
>>> 
>>> What about third parties selling MR/MS services which include also PxTRs services?
>> 
>> That is exactly what I am doing (oh, well, no real customers yet, but working on that :-). For the PxTR services such a third party would then only announce the block(s) used by his own customers though. Providing free transit for the whole EID block would get kind of expensive if LISP takes off…
> 
> …. or an opportunity to have “peering” agreements with other PxTR providers ;-)

We see just this (peering) happening between LISP Service Providers in the US now.

-Darrel