Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang
"Randy Presuhn" <randy_presuhn@mindspring.com> Tue, 19 June 2007 21:57 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 14:57:32 -0700
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Hi - As a technical contributor... > From: "Addison Phillips" <addison@yahoo-inc.com> > To: "Randy Presuhn" <randy_presuhn@mindspring.com> > Cc: "LTRU Working Group" <ltru@ietf.org> > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 2:34 PM > Subject: Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang ... > There was also a proposal (I think I made it) to limit extlangs to "at > 4646bis birth only"---that is, only currently enclosed languages that > are otherwise unencoded would be extlangs. This gets us the (for > example) the enclosed Chinese dialects (etc.), but not any future > extlangs. Future registrations would be primary language subtags only. ... I think it's important to keep in mind the "division of labor" between the ltru WG and the function of the ietf-languages@iana.org list. Here in the WG, we need to ensure that the registry and registration process ensure that the right bits get recorded in the right spots, and that the resulting language tag structure works. We only have to agree that there are cases of "enclosing languages" that make it worthwhile to represent this property in the regsitry, and to account for in in our matching algorithms. Deciding which specific languages are to be given such treatment does not belong here. We only need to concern oursevles with the question of whether it is a requirement (that seems to be agreed). If we cannot agree on a uniform way to handle these cases for the big batch of tags we'd like add, based entirely on the data from the standards from which we're importing this information, then I suggest that those details would most properly be hashed out on the ietf-languages list on a case-by-case basis. Randy _______________________________________________ Ltru mailing list Ltru@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru
- extlang (was Re: Suggested language for "mis" (Re… Mark Davis
- Re: extlang (was Re: Suggested language for "mis"… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: extlang (was Re: Suggested language for "mis"… Doug Ewell
- Re: extlang (was Re: Suggested language for "mis"… Mark Davis
- Re: extlang (was Re: Suggested language for "mis"… John Cowan
- RE: extlang (was Re: Suggested language for "mis"… Peter Constable
- Re: extlang (was Re: Suggested language for "mis"… Doug Ewell
- Re: extlang (was Re: Suggested language for "mis"… John Cowan
- Re: extlang (was Re: Suggested language for "mis"… Addison Phillips
- Re: extlang (was Re: Suggested language for "mis"… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- [Ltru] * in extended filtering Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] * in extended filtering Addison Phillips
- Re: extlang (was Re: Suggested language for "mis"… Mark Davis
- Re: extlang (was Re: Suggested language for "mis"… John Cowan
- Re: extlang (was Re: Suggested language for "mis"… Addison Phillips
- Re: extlang (was Re: Suggested language for "mis"… John Cowan
- [Ltru] Re: extlang Randy Presuhn
- [Ltru] Re: extlang Randy Presuhn
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang John Cowan
- Re: extlang (was Re: Suggested language for "mis"… John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Randy Presuhn
- RE: extlang (was Re: Suggested language for "mis"… Peter Constable
- RE: [Ltru] Re: extlang Peter Constable
- RE: [Ltru] Re: extlang Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang John Cowan
- Re: extlang (was Re: Suggested language for "mis"… Martin Duerst
- Re: extlang (was Re: Suggested language for "mis"… John Cowan
- [Ltru] Re: extlang Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Mark Davis
- Flagging macrolanguages in the LSR (Was: extlang … Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: Flagging macrolanguages in the LSR (Was: extl… Addison Phillips
- Re: Flagging macrolanguages in the LSR (Was: extl… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- [Ltru] Langtag.net Karen_Broome
- Re: Flagging macrolanguages in the LSR (Was: extl… Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Langtag.net Addison Phillips
- [Ltru] Re: Langtag.net Stephane Bortzmeyer
- [Ltru] Extlang stability (was: extlang) Frank Ellermann
- Re: [Ltru] Extlang stability (was: extlang) John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] Extlang stability (was: extlang) Mark Davis
- [Ltru] Re: Extlang stability Frank Ellermann
- Re: [Ltru] Extlang stability (was: extlang) John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Extlang stability John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] Extlang stability (was: extlang) Mark Davis
- Re: [Ltru] Extlang stability (was: extlang) John Cowan