[Ltru] Re: Extlang stability
"Frank Ellermann" <nobody@xyzzy.claranet.de> Thu, 13 September 2007 11:27 UTC
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Subject: [Ltru] Re: Extlang stability
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John Cowan wrote: > Frank Ellermann scripsit: >> The "extlang" concept is messier than "Suppress-Script", isn't it ? > It is not, particularly because the work has been done for us by > an ISO RA. The trouble with Suppress-Script: is that we, the IETF, > invented it ourselves, but don't have the resources to follow through. IBTD, we invented the rigid and awkward extlang syntax, not ISO. And we want "stable forever" tags. With the "Macrolanguage" construct the relevant info is in the registry, not in the tag. The registry can be updated, e.g. replacing Macrolanguage "xx" by "aaa" in my example if ISO rearranges one set (xx-aaa, xx-aab, xx-aac, xx-bbb) into two sets (xx-aaa, xx-aaa-aab, xx-aaa-aac) plus (xx-bbb). Wrt the resources, I've no clue why e.g. (no, nb, nn) or (bs, hr, sr, sh) are recognized sets, while (de, gsw, nds) or similar groups aren't identified as related. It appears to be inconsistent. But as long as those sets are only identified in the registry, not in the tags, it's no serious problem to split, join, add, or remove sets later. Maybe we should limit the "extlang" business to sgn-* as a special non-Macrolanguage set. Frank _______________________________________________ Ltru mailing list Ltru@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru
- extlang (was Re: Suggested language for "mis" (Re… Mark Davis
- Re: extlang (was Re: Suggested language for "mis"… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: extlang (was Re: Suggested language for "mis"… Doug Ewell
- Re: extlang (was Re: Suggested language for "mis"… Mark Davis
- Re: extlang (was Re: Suggested language for "mis"… John Cowan
- RE: extlang (was Re: Suggested language for "mis"… Peter Constable
- Re: extlang (was Re: Suggested language for "mis"… Doug Ewell
- Re: extlang (was Re: Suggested language for "mis"… John Cowan
- Re: extlang (was Re: Suggested language for "mis"… Addison Phillips
- Re: extlang (was Re: Suggested language for "mis"… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- [Ltru] * in extended filtering Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] * in extended filtering Addison Phillips
- Re: extlang (was Re: Suggested language for "mis"… Mark Davis
- Re: extlang (was Re: Suggested language for "mis"… John Cowan
- Re: extlang (was Re: Suggested language for "mis"… Addison Phillips
- Re: extlang (was Re: Suggested language for "mis"… John Cowan
- [Ltru] Re: extlang Randy Presuhn
- [Ltru] Re: extlang Randy Presuhn
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang John Cowan
- Re: extlang (was Re: Suggested language for "mis"… John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Randy Presuhn
- RE: extlang (was Re: Suggested language for "mis"… Peter Constable
- RE: [Ltru] Re: extlang Peter Constable
- RE: [Ltru] Re: extlang Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang John Cowan
- Re: extlang (was Re: Suggested language for "mis"… Martin Duerst
- Re: extlang (was Re: Suggested language for "mis"… John Cowan
- [Ltru] Re: extlang Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Mark Davis
- Flagging macrolanguages in the LSR (Was: extlang … Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: Flagging macrolanguages in the LSR (Was: extl… Addison Phillips
- Re: Flagging macrolanguages in the LSR (Was: extl… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- [Ltru] Langtag.net Karen_Broome
- Re: Flagging macrolanguages in the LSR (Was: extl… Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Langtag.net Addison Phillips
- [Ltru] Re: Langtag.net Stephane Bortzmeyer
- [Ltru] Extlang stability (was: extlang) Frank Ellermann
- Re: [Ltru] Extlang stability (was: extlang) John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] Extlang stability (was: extlang) Mark Davis
- [Ltru] Re: Extlang stability Frank Ellermann
- Re: [Ltru] Extlang stability (was: extlang) John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Extlang stability John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] Extlang stability (was: extlang) Mark Davis
- Re: [Ltru] Extlang stability (was: extlang) John Cowan