Re: [mpls] Question for clarification (was RE: Poll on renaming of EXPfield)
"Diego Caviglia" <diego.caviglia@ericsson.com> Tue, 19 August 2008 15:54 UTC
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Subject: Re: [mpls] Question for clarification (was RE: Poll on renaming of EXPfield)
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Hi all, Seems to me that the Eric proposal is quite good, probably is the easiest way to solve this issue. Just my two cents BR D > -----Original Message----- > From: mpls-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Eric Gray > Sent: martedì 19 agosto 2008 16.42 > To: George Swallow; Loa Andersson > Cc: mpls@ietf.org > Subject: [mpls] Question for clarification (was RE: Poll on renaming of > EXPfield) > > George/Loa, > > I am concerned that we may be signing ourselves up for > a slew of RFC revisions/replacements in making this name > change. > > Just to make things clearer - is it the intention that > we're creating a single RFC that explains the change and will > then be listed as "updating" all RFCs that currently use the > term "EXP", or are we in fact signing up to replace a number > of RFCs? > > It's one thing to decide that the field name "CoS" is > not worse than the name "EXP"; it is quite another thing to > sign up for churning a number of RFCs to replace a term - > because it is "nor worse than" the existing term. > > Another thing to consider is that - even if we plan > only to list this new RFC as "updating" all of the RFCs that > currently refer to the field name "EXP" - we may be setting > a record for the number of RFCs "updated" by a single new > RFC. Given the number of people who still refer to RFC 2547 > VPNs, it is not all that clear what difference an RFC that > proposes to change a field name from "EXP bits" to "CoS bits" > will really have. However, if we don't even list this RFC as > "updating" these other RFCs, then it is very likely that the > new RFC will have even less impact on usage (possibly having > no effect what-so-ever over the long run) - since a person > reading any of these existing RFCs will have no particular > reason to know about this new one. > > In my opinion, a better use of everybody's time would > be to write an RFC that simply explains the way the IETF's > use of the term "Experimental" actually works (i.e. - you > do not get to pick experimental values, or define symantic > meanings for a set of values, for use in the Internet scope > without obtaining a specific value (or values) from a number > space manager, such as IANA). Such a thing would be quite a > reasonable thing to do as a simple process BCP. > > -- > Eric Gray > Principal Engineer > Ericsson > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: mpls-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On > > Behalf Of George Swallow > > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 4:24 PM > > To: mpls@ietf.org > > Subject: [mpls] Poll on renaming of EXP field > > > > During the last call on "EXP field" renamed to "CoS Field" > > draft-ietf-mpls-cosfield-def-04.txt, there were comments on > > alternatives to the name COS. > > > > This message initiates a two week poll on whether the name COS > > is good enough, or if some other name is needed. The poll closes > > 23:59 Sept 1 GMT. > > > > Please answer with a simple yes or no. You may send any > > additional comment > > in a separate message (with a different subject line). > > > > ...George > > > > _______________________________________________ > > mpls mailing list > > mpls@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls
- [mpls] Poll on renaming of EXP field George Swallow
- Re: [mpls] Poll on renaming of EXP field Santiago Alvarez (saalvare)
- [mpls] discussion (was Re: Poll on renaming of EX… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [mpls] Poll on renaming of EXP field Huub van Helvoort
- Re: [mpls] Poll on renaming of EXP field Rajiv Asati (rajiva)
- Re: [mpls] discussion (was Re: Poll on renaming o… George Swallow
- Re: [mpls] Poll on renaming of EXP field Shane Amante
- Re: [mpls] Poll on renaming of EXP field Cao Wei
- Re: [mpls] Poll on renaming of EXP field HENDERICKX Wim
- Re: [mpls] Poll on renaming of EXP field Harshith Shetty
- Re: [mpls] Poll on renaming of EXP field jordan.britnell
- Re: [mpls] Poll on renaming of EXP field Jiang Yuan-long
- Re: [mpls] Poll on renaming of EXP field Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon)
- Re: [mpls] Poll on renaming of EXP field Matthew Meyer
- Re: [mpls] Poll on renaming of EXP field Tomohiro Otani
- Re: [mpls] Poll on renaming of EXP field Santanu.Ganguly
- Re: [mpls] Poll on renaming of EXP field Phil Bedard
- Re: [mpls] Poll on renaming of EXP field BOCCI Matthew
- Re: [mpls] discussion (was Re: Poll on renaming o… Shahram Davari
- [mpls] Question for clarification (was RE: Poll o… Eric Gray
- Re: [mpls] Poll on renaming of EXP field Eric Gray
- Re: [mpls] Poll on renaming of EXP field phani bandaru
- Re: [mpls] Question for clarification (was RE: Po… Diego Caviglia
- Re: [mpls] Poll on renaming of EXP field buyukkoc
- Re: [mpls] Poll on renaming of EXP field Francois Le Faucheur IMAP
- Re: [mpls] Question for clarification (was RE: Po… Shahram Davari
- Re: [mpls] Poll on renaming of EXP field Shahram Davari
- [mpls] "Traffic Management" (was Re: Poll on rena… Francois Le Faucheur IMAP
- Re: [mpls] Poll on renaming of EXP field Peter Tomsu
- Re: [mpls] "Traffic Management" (was Re: Poll on … Eric Gray
- Re: [mpls] Poll on renaming of EXP field John Kenney
- Re: [mpls] "Traffic Management" (was Re: Poll on … John Kenney
- [mpls] FW: Poll on renaming of EXP field Howard Green
- Re: [mpls] "Traffic Management" (was Re: Poll on … Shah, Himanshu
- Re: [mpls] "Traffic Management" (was Re: Poll on … Huub van Helvoort
- Re: [mpls] "Traffic Management" (was Re: Poll on … George Swallow
- Re: [mpls] "Traffic Management" (was Re: Poll on … David Allan
- Re: [mpls] "Traffic Management" (was Re: Poll on … Peng He
- Re: [mpls] "Traffic Management" (was Re: Poll on … Eric Gray
- Re: [mpls] "Traffic Management" (was Re: Poll on … Eric Gray
- Re: [mpls] Poll on renaming of EXP field Mach Chen
- Re: [mpls] Poll on renaming of EXP field Vijayanand C
- Re: [mpls] Poll on renaming of EXP field Tom Petch
- Re: [mpls] "Traffic Management" (was Re: Poll on … Francois Le Faucheur IMAP
- Re: [mpls] "Traffic Management" (was Re: Poll on … Francois Le Faucheur IMAP
- Re: [mpls] Poll on renaming of EXP field Alexander Vainshtein
- Re: [mpls] "Traffic Management" (was Re: Poll on … Alexander Vainshtein
- Re: [mpls] Poll on renaming of EXP field Daniele Ceccarelli
- [mpls] Discuss of EXP field Adrian Farrel
- Re: [mpls] Discuss of EXP field Alexander Vainshtein
- Re: [mpls] "Traffic Management" (was Re: Poll on … Eric Gray
- Re: [mpls] Poll on renaming of EXP field Moshe Ashkenazi
- Re: [mpls] Poll on renaming of EXP field Vullo, Anthony D (Tony)
- Re: [mpls] FW: Poll on renaming of EXP field Vadali, Somayajulu (Somu)
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- Re: [mpls] Poll on renaming of EXP field saquib khan
- Re: [mpls] Poll on renaming of EXP field Annamaria Fulignoli
- Re: [mpls] Poll on renaming of EXP field Zafar Ali (zali)
- Re: [mpls] Poll on renaming of EXP field Andrew Sergeev
- Re: [mpls] Poll on renaming of EXP field Michael Lyngbøl
- Re: [mpls] Poll on renaming of EXP field Ben Niven-Jenkins
- Re: [mpls] Poll on renaming of EXP field Andrew G. Malis
- Re: [mpls] Poll on renaming of EXP field Don Fedyk