Re: [mpls] Question for clarification (was RE: Poll on renaming of EXPfield)

"Diego Caviglia" <diego.caviglia@ericsson.com> Tue, 19 August 2008 15:54 UTC

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Hi all,
       Seems to me that the Eric proposal is quite good, probably is the easiest way to solve this issue.

Just my two cents

BR

D



> -----Original Message-----
> From: mpls-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
> Eric Gray
> Sent: martedì 19 agosto 2008 16.42
> To: George Swallow; Loa Andersson
> Cc: mpls@ietf.org
> Subject: [mpls] Question for clarification (was RE: Poll on renaming of
> EXPfield)
> 
> George/Loa,
> 
> 	I am concerned that we may be signing ourselves up for
> a slew of RFC revisions/replacements in making this name
> change.
> 
> 	Just to make things clearer - is it the intention that
> we're creating a single RFC that explains the change and will
> then be listed as "updating" all RFCs that currently use the
> term "EXP", or are we in fact signing up to replace a number
> of RFCs?
> 
> 	It's one thing to decide that the field name "CoS" is
> not worse than the name "EXP"; it is quite another thing to
> sign up for churning a number of RFCs to replace a term -
> because it is "nor worse than" the existing term.
> 
> 	Another thing to consider is that - even if we plan
> only to list this new RFC as "updating" all of the RFCs that
> currently refer to the field name "EXP" - we may be setting
> a record for the number of RFCs "updated" by a single new
> RFC.  Given the number of people who still refer to RFC 2547
> VPNs, it is not all that clear what difference an RFC that
> proposes to change a field name from "EXP bits" to "CoS bits"
> will really have.  However, if we don't even list this RFC as
> "updating" these other RFCs, then it is very likely that the
> new RFC will have even less impact on usage (possibly having
> no effect what-so-ever over the long run) - since a person
> reading any of these existing RFCs will have no particular
> reason to know about this new one.
> 
> 	In my opinion, a better use of everybody's time would
> be to write an RFC that simply explains the way the IETF's
> use of the term "Experimental" actually works (i.e. - you
> do not get to pick experimental values, or define symantic
> meanings for a set of values, for use in the Internet scope
> without obtaining a specific value (or values) from a number
> space manager, such as IANA).  Such a thing would be quite a
> reasonable thing to do as a simple process BCP.
> 
> --
> Eric Gray
> Principal Engineer
> Ericsson
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mpls-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On
> > Behalf Of George Swallow
> > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 4:24 PM
> > To: mpls@ietf.org
> > Subject: [mpls] Poll on renaming of EXP field
> >
> > During the last call on "EXP field" renamed to  "CoS Field"
> > draft-ietf-mpls-cosfield-def-04.txt, there were comments on
> > alternatives to the name COS.
> >
> > This message initiates a two week poll on whether the name COS
> > is good enough, or if some other name is needed.  The poll closes
> > 23:59 Sept 1 GMT.
> >
> > Please answer with a simple yes or no.  You may send any
> > additional comment
> > in a separate message (with a different subject line).
> >
> > ...George
> >
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