Re: [Mtgvenue] document status, the role of the iaoc, and enforceability

Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com> Sun, 29 January 2017 11:05 UTC

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From: Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: [Mtgvenue] document status, the role of the iaoc, and enforceability
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Ok.  I can go with Brian's text, but retaining the comment about talking
to NOMCOM (it bears repeating always).

Eliot


On 1/29/17 4:30 AM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
> On 29/01/2017 02:22, Eliot Lear wrote:
>>
>> On 1/27/17 8:07 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
>>> "While this document uses these terms and these meanings, it remains the
>>> responsibility of the IAOC to apply their best judgment.  Any appeals
>>> remain subject to the provisions of [RFC4071]."
>>>
>> I think it amounts to the same thing.  I'm just being explicit.  Here's
>> the relevant text:
>>
>>    In no circumstances may the IAB or
>>    ISOC Board of Trustees overturn a decision of the IAOC that involves
>>    a binding contract or overturn a personnel-related action (such as
>>    hiring, firing, promotion, demotion, performance reviews, salary
>>    adjustments, etc.).
> I think we agree on the substance. I am just leery about this document
> restating things that are formally defined by an existing BCP.
>
> The point about telling the NomCom your concerns about past nominees or
> present candidates should be engraved on the archway at the entrance to the IETF.
>
>     Brian
>