[Netconf] Re: ?? WGLC for draft-ietf-net conf-t ??ls-04.txt
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Subject: [Netconf] Re: ?? WGLC for draft-ietf-net conf-t ??ls-04.txt
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> This does not really answer my question. Why is the text in the TLS > specs not sufficient? We should IMHO not include text is the TLS > specifications already cover things. Dear Juergen, What about modify the actual text as follows: OLD: 2.2. Connection Closure Either NETCONF peer MAY stop the NETCONF connection at any time and therefore notify the other NETCONF peer that no more data on this channel will be sent and that any data received after a closure request will be ignored. This MAY happen when no data is received from a connection for a long time, where the application decides what "long" means. TLS has the ability for secure connection closure using the Alert protocol. When the NETCONF peer closes the NETCONF connection, it MUST send a TLS close_notify alert before closing the TCP connection. Any data received after a closure alert is ignored. Unless a fatal error has occurred, each party is required to send a close_notify alert before closing the write side of the connection [RFC5246]. TFrom netconf-bounces@ietf.org Sat Sep 27 14:31:24 2008 Return-Path: <netconf-bounces@ietf.org> X-Original-To: netconf-archive@lists.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-netconf-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 794A83A68D1; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 14:31:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: netconf@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: netconf@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DCB03A68D1 for <netconf@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 14:31:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.102 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.102 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.719, BAYES_40=-0.185, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, SARE_SUB_ENC_UTF8=0.152] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pSAJbJhT1kpz for <netconf@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 14:31:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sp.isima.fr (sp.isima.fr [193.55.95.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33F193A68AA for <netconf@ietf.org>; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 14:31:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.isima.fr (www-data@www.isima.fr [193.55.95.79]) by sp.isima.fr (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m8RMUFeh745650; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 23:30:15 +0100 Received: from 88.164.98.77 (SquirrelMail authenticated user badra) by www.isima.fr with HTTP; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 23:29:21 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <49231.88.164.98.77.1222550961.squirrel@www.isima.fr> In-Reply-To: <20080927161432.GA918@elstar.local> References: <20080927090622.GA431@elstar.local> <59304.88.164.98.77.1222523373.squirrel@www.isima.fr> <20080927154119.GA803@elstar.local> <61122.88.164.98.77.1222530809.squirrel@www.isima.fr> <20080927161432.GA918@elstar.local> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 23:29:21 +0200 (CEST) From: badra@isima.fr To: j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (sp.isima.fr [193.55.95.1]); Sat, 27 Sep 2008 23:30:20 +0100 (WEST) Cc: =?utf-8?Q?=C2?= <netconf@ietf.org> Subject: [Netconf] =?utf-8?b?IFJlOsKgPz/CoFdHTEPCoGZvcsKgZHJhZnQtaWV0Zi1u?= =?utf-8?q?et_conf-t_=3F=3Fls-04=2Etxt?= X-BeenThere: netconf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Configuration WG mailing list <netconf.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netconf>, <mailto:netconf-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/private/netconf> List-Post: <mailto:netconf@ietf.org> List-Help: <mailto:netconf-request@ietf.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netconf>, <mailto:netconf-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: netconf-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: netconf-bounces@ietf.org > This does not really answer my question. Why is the text in the TLS > specs not sufficient? We should IMHO not include text is the TLS > specifications already cover things. Dear Juergen, What about modify the actual text as follows: OLD: 2.2. Connection Closure Either NETCONF peer MAY stop the NETCONF connection at any time and therefore notify the other NETCONF peer that no more data on this channel will be sent and that any data received after a closure request will be ignored. This MAY happen when no data is received from a connection for a long time, where the application decides what "long" means. TLS has the ability for secure connection closure using the Alert protocol. When the NETCONF peer closes the NETCONF connection, it MUST send a TLS close_notify alert before closing the TCP connection. Any data received after a closure alert is ignored. Unless a fatal error has occurred, each party is required to send a close_notify alert before closing the write side of the connection [RFC524he other party MUST respond with a close_notify alert of its own and close down the connection immediately, discarding any pending writes. It is not required for the initiator of the close to wait for the responding close_notify alert before closing the read side of the connection. NEW: 2.2. Connection Closure TLS [RFC5246] has the ability for secure connection closure using the Alert protocol. Either NETCONF peer MAY stop the NETCONF connection at any time by sending a TLS close_notify alert. This notifies the recipient that the sender will not send any more messages on this connection. Any data received after a closure alert is ignored. Like that, if people need more information on this alert behaviour, they can refer to TLS document. Best regards, Badra _______________________________________________ Netconf mailing list Netconf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netconf 6]. The other party MUST respond with a close_notify alert of its own and close down the connection immediately, discarding any pending writes. It is not required for the initiator of the close to wait for the responding close_notify alert before closing the read side of the connection. NEW: 2.2. Connection Closure TLS [RFC5246] has the ability for secure connection closure using the Alert protocol. Either NETCONF peer MAY stop the NETCONF connection at any time by sending a TLS close_notify alert. This notifies the recipient that the sender will not send any more messages on this connection. Any data received after a closure alert is ignored. Like that, if people need more information on this alert behaviour, they can refer to TLS document. Best regards, Badra _______________________________________________ Netconf mailing list Netconf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netconf
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