Re: [Netconf] ? Re:? WGLC? for? draft-ietf-netcon f-tls-04.txt
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Subject: Re: [Netconf] ? Re:? WGLC? for? draft-ietf-netcon f-tls-04.txt
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Hi, > To quote TLS, > "The other party MUST respond with a close_notify > alert of its own and close down the connection immediately, > discarding any pending writes. " > so this proposed text would appear to contradict a TLS MUST. TLS > also takes > great care not to bind itself to TCP and not to prescribe the > behaviour of the > underlying transport protocol. maybe what said in counterpart section in syslog-tls contradict a TLS MUST, too. > > And I imagine that this is what Juergen had in mind. When we start > to reproduce > TLS in our own words, we are likFrom netconf-bounces@ietf.org Mon Sep 29 03:45:02 2008 Return-Path: <netconf-bounces@ietf.org> X-Original-To: netconf-archive@lists.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-netconf-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E60773A6784; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 03:45:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: netconf@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: netconf@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE0B43A6819 for <netconf@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 03:45:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xrEn9jOZhFIw for <netconf@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 03:44:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usaga01-in.huawei.com (usaga01-in.huawei.com [206.16.17.211]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0F553A6784 for <netconf@ietf.org>; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 03:44:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huawei.com (usaga01-in [172.18.4.6]) by usaga01-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0K7Y00JH8DUQHN@usaga01-in.huawei.com> for netconf@ietf.org; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 03:44:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huawei.com ([172.17.1.36]) by usaga01-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0K7Y00HMDDUPKA@usaga01-in.huawei.com> for netconf@ietf.org; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 03:44:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.24.1.3] (Forwarded-For: [220.249.46.106]) by szxmc04-in.huawei.com (mshttpd); Mon, 29 Sep 2008 18:44:32 +0800 Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 18:44:32 +0800 From: fanhuaxiang 90002624 <washam.fan@huawei.com> In-reply-to: <006a01c92213$63b81060$0601a8c0@allison> To: "tom.petch" <cfinss@dial.pipex.com> Message-id: <f9998bde3aa22.3aa22f9998bde@huawei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006) Content-language: el Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: el Priority: normal References: <20080927090622.GA431@elstar.local> <59304.88.164.98.77.1222523373.squirrel@www.isima.fr> <20080927154119.GA803@elstar.local> <61122.88.164.98.77.1222530809.squirrel@www.isima.fr> <20080927161432.GA918@elstar.local> <49231.88.164.98.77.1222550961.squirrel@www.isima.fr> <f944b43f3d55f.3d55ff944b43f@huawei.com> <53194.88.164.98.77.1222565647.squirrel@www.isima.fr> <fa17895d38c09.38c09fa17895d@huawei.com> <54592.88.164.98.77.1222597371.squirrel@www.isima.fr> <006a01c92213$63b81060$0601a8c0@allison> Cc: ? <netconf@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [Netconf] ? Re:? WGLC? for? draft-ietf-netcon f-tls-04.txt X-BeenThere: netconf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Configuration WG mailing list <netconf.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netconf>, <mailto:netconf-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/private/netconf> List-Post: <mailto:netconf@ietf.org> List-Help: <mailto:netconf-request@ietf.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netconf>, <mailto:netconf-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: netconf-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: netconf-bounces@ietf.org Hi, > To quote TLS, > "The other party MUST respond with a close_notify > alert of its own and close down the connection immediately, > discarding any pending writes. " > so this proposed text would appear to contradict a TLS MUST. TLS > also takes > great care not to bind itself to TCP and not to prescribe the > behaviour of the > underlying transport protocol. maybe what said in counterpart section in syslog-tls contradict a TLS MUST, too. > > And I imagine that this is what Juergen had in mind. When we start > to reproduce > TLS in our own words, we aely to make things worse (perhaps > also known as > the distributed database problem). And for those with a sense of > history, be > aware that the last call on syslog-tls completed precisely two > years ago - and > the I-D is still being revised:-( washam _______________________________________________ Netconf mailing list Netconf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netconf re likely to make things worse (perhaps > also known as > the distributed database problem). And for those with a sense of > history, be > aware that the last call on syslog-tls completed precisely two > years ago - and > the I-D is still being revised:-( washam _______________________________________________ Netconf mailing list Netconf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netconf
- [Netconf] WGLC for draft-ietf-netconf-tls-04.txt Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich)
- Re: [Netconf] WGLC for draft-ietf-netconf-tls-04.… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] WGLC for draft-ietf-netconf-tls-04.… badra
- Re: [Netconf] WGLC for draft-ietf-netconf-tls-04.… fanhuaxiang 90002624
- Re: [Netconf] WGLC for draft-ietf-netconf-tls-04.… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] WGLC for draft-ietf-netconf-tls-04.… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- [Netconf] Re: WGLC for draft-ietf-netconf-t ls-0… badra
- Re: [Netconf] ????WGLC??for??draft-ietf-netconf-t… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- [Netconf] Re: WGLC for draft-ietf-netconf-t ls-0… badra
- Re: [Netconf] ?? WGLC for draft-ietf-netconf-t??l… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- [Netconf] Re: WGLC for draft-ietf-netconf-t ls-0… badra
- [Netconf] Re: ?? WGLC for draft-ietf-net conf-t ?… badra
- [Netconf] Re: Re: ?? WGLC for draft-ietf-net conf… fanhuaxiang 90002624
- Re: [Netconf] WGLC for draft-ietf-netconf-tls-04.… badra
- Re: [Netconf] WGLC for draft-ietf-netconf-tls-04.… fanhuaxiang 90002624
- [Netconf] Re: Re: WGLC for draft-ietf-netcon f-tl… badra
- Re: [Netconf] ??Re:??WGLC??for??draft-ietf-netcon… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf]  Re: WGLC for draft-ietf-netcon… tom.petch
- Re: [Netconf] ??Re:??WGLC??for??draft-ietf-netcon… fanhuaxiang 90002624
- Re: [Netconf] ? Re:? WGLC? for? draft-ietf-netcon… fanhuaxiang 90002624
- Re: [Netconf] ??Re:??WGLC??for??draft-ietf-netcon… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] ??Re:??WGLC??for??draft-ietf-netcon… Mohamad Badra
- Re: [Netconf] ??Re:??WGLC??for??draft-ietf-netcon… Mohamad Badra
- Re: [Netconf] WGLC for draft-ietf-netconf-tls-04.… David B Harrington
- Re: [Netconf] WGLC for draft-ietf-netconf-t ls-… David Harrington
- [Netconf] RE: WGLC for draft-ietf-netconf-t ls-0… badra
- Re: [Netconf] ��WGLC�for�draft-ietf-netcon f-t ls… badra
- [Netconf] RE: WGLC for draft-ietf-netconf-t ls-0… badra
- Re: [Netconf] ????WGLC??for??draft-ietf-netconf-t… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] WGLC for draft-ietf-netconf-t ls-04… fanhuaxiang 90002624
- Re: [Netconf]   WGLC for draft-ietf-netconf-t… tom.petch
- Re: [Netconf] WGLC for draft-ietf-netconf-tls-04.… badra
- Re: [Netconf] WGLC??for??draft-ietf-netconf-tls-0… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- [Netconf] Re: WGLC for draft-ietf-netconf-tls-04… badra
- Re: [Netconf] ????WGLC for draft-ietf-netconf-tls… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- [Netconf] Re: WGLC for draft-ietf-netconf-tls-04… badra
- Re: [Netconf] WGLC for draft-ietf-netconf-tls-04.… tom.petch
- Re: [Netconf] WGLC for draft-ietf-netconf-tls-04.… badra
- Re: [Netconf] WGLC for draft-ietf-netconf-tls-04.… tom.petch
- Re: [Netconf] WGLC for draft-ietf-netconf-tls-04.… badra
- Re: [Netconf] WGLC for draft-ietf-netconf-tls-04.… David B Harrington
- [Netconf] system or registered port for Netconf o… badra
- Re: [Netconf] system or registered port for Netco… fanhuaxiang 90002624
- Re: [Netconf] system or registered port for Netco… Mohamad Badra
- Re: [Netconf] system or registered port for Netco… David Harrington