Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in 2011

"Mike Eisler" <mre-ietf@eisler.com> Mon, 11 October 2010 14:05 UTC

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Subject: Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in 2011
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I get that as a WG in an international standards body with customers and
employees spread across the world that having a testing event outside of
the USA would be good.

However, there are significant costs for doing so, especially if equipment
heavier than laptops is involved.

I suggest amortizing travel costs to align with an IETF meeting (most of
much are no longer in the USA).

http://www.ietf.org/meeting/upcoming.html does not show Paris as future
venue, though there are several European meetings planned with TBD as the
venue.

So unless Oracle wants to host a bake-a-thon in Prague next spring, I think
we are going to Ann Arbor and Sunnyvale next year.

On Mon, October 11, 2010 6:17 am, Steve Dickson wrote:
> On 10/07/2010 02:06 PM, Thomas Haynes wrote:
>> We've discussed potential venues for having 2 BakeAThons in 2011.
>>
>> The dates would be in the middle of June and the start of October.
>>
>> There are two different proposals:
>>
>> 1)
>>
>> June: EMC, Paris, France
>> Oct: NetApp, Sunnyvale, CA
>>
>> 2)
>>
>> June: CITI, Ann Arbor, MI
>> Oct: NetApp, Sunnyvale, CA
> Having the it at CITI makes it much more feasible... IMHO..
>
> From a strictly Red Hat point of view, its much easier and
> affordable for us to send one person to CITI and have
> two people participating verses sending two people to Paris
> France, along with equipment...
>
>>
>> We are seeing increased demand to host the event in Europe and it should
>> be feasible to do so once every 2 years. Between 20 - 25% of our
>> participants
>> are based on the other side of the Atlantic. We might also draw in
>> additional
>> testers and we all know once an organization gets a taste of testing,
>> they
>> tend to continue attending.
> So are most of the 20 to 25% based out of Paris? If it was held in Paris,
> what would be percentage of people travelling out of country? Meaning
> would
> only 75 to 80% would have to travelling out of country or would that
> percentage go up to 90 to 95%? If its the latter I see no reason
> to move it...
>
> My two cents...
>
> steved.
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