Re: [ogpx] Draft Agenda for VWRAP WG Session at IETF77

[Joshua Bell <[e-mail]>]

All excellent questions, and a great time to ask for help in this area. I've
reached out to a few folks with experience in orchestrating these
mixed-reality events but haven't heard back. I need to beat the drum more
loudly, and dedicate serious time over the next few weeks to getting this
prepped.

On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 11:25 AM, David W Levine <[e-mail]> wrote:

>
> That looks super Josh. The first item raises a couple of quick logistical
> questions. Do we have a site in world which we
> expect to use? I'm assuming we're going to be using voice, I'm also
> assuming we'll stick with 1.23.X compatible clients,
> as much as it might be nice to have the 2.0 media in world.


I'll check with Lisa about using "IETF Island" in Second Life (
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/vmeet/current/msg00223.html), and make
sure we have permissions sorted.

What I've experienced working well for mixed-reality meetings is to have the
virtual meeting space projected on screen, and slide content displayed
in-world. We can do this with both "old" in-world media and "new" shared
media (where links are shared); the latter is snazzier but would require
users of older clients to follow along manually, unless we uniformly use
Google Docs and use the present/follow tools. Definitely something we should
dry-run.

We should definitely support voice in- and out of world at the meeting. Of
course, many virtual attendees prefer to stick with text (in meetings, I
tend to be a back-channel "typer" myself), so we'll need to relay.

I'm looking forward to seeing us pull of the mixed reality
> meeting. I'm also expecting some wide eyes when we take questions/comments
> from a virtual mike line.


Minimally we will take questions from:
* Physical session attendees
* Jabber room
* In-World in Second Life

Other virtual locations are welcome, but I'll need volunteers ASAP to host
them and work on relays.

Traditionally, the on-the-fly nominated Jabber scribe relays those questions
to the physical room. If we get a good Jabber/In-World relay hopefully this
can be unified. Otherwise, we'll have to maintain three queues
(round-robin?)

Unless we have another volunteer, I'll attempt to play "MC" (but NOT scribe)
during the meeting to ensure the various modalities get represented at the
mics. (And I'll need backup if/when I'm talking.)


> Given the
> 9:00 am, are we first up in the room? If so, have we looked at getting
> access to the room prior to 9:00?


We are up first in the room. I'll look into getting early access.


>  And.. finally
> do we have dry run plans a) pre IETF and b) before the session, in the
> actual space. (I'm willing to be there any time on
> Monday we need to test stuff)
>

We don't have such plans, but we should!

People who wish to participate in the mixed-reality planning can email me
directly, and I'll coordinate.


>
>
> - David
> ~ Zha
>
>
>
>  From:
> Joshua Bell <[e-mail]>
> To: ogpx <[e-mail]> Date: 03/04/2010 02:16 PM Subject:
> Re: [ogpx] Draft Agenda for VWRAP WG Session at IETF77
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>
> Thanks, folks. I did some agenda bashing after talking with several of
> the topic owners, here's the latest:
>
> 2 min - Mixed Reality Status Check  - Joshua Bell
>
> 10 min - Welcome, Introductions, Agenda Review/Bashing, News - Barry
> Leiba, Joshua Bell (chairs)
>
> 25min - Open Issues in "Foundation"  -  Mark Lentczner
> * Including transport (EventQueue, HyBi, WebSockets, ...), road map
>
> 25min - Open Issues in "Abstract Type System" - Mark Lentczner
> * Including implementation experiences (Mark Lentczner, John Hurliman)
>
> 10min - Open Issues in "Introduction and Goals"  - Meadhbh Hamrick
>
> 5min - Client-Side Capabilities - David W Levine
>
> 5min - Status/Issues in "User Authentication"  - Meadhbh Hamrick
> * Including OAuth
>
> 15min - Cable Beach and VWRAP  - John Hurliman
>
> 5min - Status/Issues in"Client Application Launch Message"  - Meadhbh
> Hamrick
>
> 5min - Status/Issues in "Deployment and Trust Patterns" - David W Levine
>
> 15min - What's NOT in VWRAP (a dissection of the Linden "Legacy"
> Protocol)  - Joshua Bell
>
> 15min - Virtual World Accessibility - Katherine Mancuso
> * NOTE: I don't have confirmation that Katherine will be attending;
> pinging via email
> * Including "making metadata accessible"
>
> 10min - Next Steps - Barry Leiba, Joshua Bell (chairs)
>
> Reminders:
> * Internet Draft final submission cut-off due 3/8 (i.e. stop revising
> drafts prior to IETF77 at this point)
> * Draft WG session agenda is due by 3/10 (i.e. Barry and I will submit
> the above)
> * Final WG session agenda is due by 3/15 (although we will bash at the
> start of the session)
>
> (See http://www.ietf.org/meeting/cutoff-dates-2010.html
> for the
>
> down-to-the-minute-in-what-time-zone cut-offs.)
>
> As always, feedback appreciated - we can still adjust the schedule to
> squeeze in additional topics. Where possible, I'd like to discuss
> things within the scope of the drafts (thus letting the draft editors
> lead the discussion), but identifying specific sub-topics that we
> should budget time for is a good thing (IMHO).
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