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Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Survey of Worldwide Censorship Techniques"

Mallory Knodel <mknodel@cdt.org> Fri, 29 May 2020 18:00 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Survey of Worldwide Censorship Techniques"
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That's better, thanks for clarifying.

I would still advocate for it to stay, simply because "self" can be 
broadly interpreted. In short, self-censorship is a knock-on effect of 
more direct forms of censorship, or a cumulative context of censorship, 
and relates to this community in two ways: helps understand what's 
called "the chilling effect," and somehow relates to the maxim of 
"be[ing] conservative in what you send".

-Mallory

On 5/29/20 1:52 PM, Eric Rescorla wrote:
> Sorry, I meant that we should remove 6.1. I agree that 6.2 and 6.3 
> continue to belong. To be clear, i agree that self-censorship is a 
> thing, I just don't think it really makes that much sense in this doc
>
> -Ekr
>
>
> On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 10:43 AM Mallory Knodel <mknodel@cdt.org 
> <mailto:mknodel@cdt.org>> wrote:
>
>     Hi,
>
>     On 5/29/20 1:28 PM, Eric Rescorla wrote:
>     > S 6.
>     > I would remove this entirely. I don't think it really belongs
>
>     I would disagree that it should be removed. It doesn't entirely
>     fit with
>     everything else, but it's correctly signposted as such, and
>     omitting the
>     concepts treated in this section would leave gaps difficult to
>     bear if
>     this draft is meant to be comprehensive for the IETF/IRTF audience.
>
>     -Mallory
>
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