Re: [Pesci-discuss] For whom it may concern..

Harald Tveit Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no> Thu, 10 November 2005 18:32 UTC

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Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 10:19:53 -0800
From: Harald Tveit Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no>
To: Pekka Savola <pekkas@netcore.fi>, Leslie Daigle <leslie@thinkingcat.com>
Subject: Re: [Pesci-discuss] For whom it may concern..
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Pekka,

I take exception to one of your remarks:

--On 10. november 2005 08:28 +0200 Pekka Savola <pekkas@netcore.fi> wrote:

> The IESG has had .. less than stellar track record of responding to the
> bottleneck problems.  As a matter of fact, I do not recall a single
> improvement which would have had _significant_ on throughput. While the
> transparency of the work has improved over the years, this has obviously
> not had significant impact on the amount of work getting done.

I believe that it has.

In terms of approved RFCs, the situation of 2005 is that the IESG moves 
approximately double the number of documents that it did in 2002.
In terms of people who complain about their documents being "stuck" in the 
IESG, I don't have the numbers (the stats are a noisy signal), but my 
impression from the complaints people addressed at me through my 4 years as 
IETF chair say that the difference is enormous.

You may dismiss that "mere" factor of two as an insignificant change in 
throughput. I won't - I have too much respect for the cost that the people 
who managed to do it paid to achieve it.

(NOTE: I *agree* that we *need* significant change. The improvements we 
have managed to get have come at a high cost to the people who made them - 
in many ways. We need to make our leadership jobs livable, not just 
survivable. But we should respect the reality.)

                          Harald



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