Re: [Pesci-discuss] For whom it may concern..
Brian E Carpenter <brc@zurich.ibm.com> Fri, 18 November 2005 15:51 UTC
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Thomas Narten wrote: >>FWIW, I don't think this helps all that much for the cases when the >>IESG is the bottleneck; however, I'm assuming that: > > >> - each AD regularly monitors his/hers I-D tracker pile > > > I think this happens less often than would be ideal. A week here a > week there, pretty soon we're talking about real time... > > >> - each AD regularly checks out the exceptions [0] to figure out if >> he/she missed something > > > Ditto. Indeed, if you believe offloading ADs is necessary, this is a > prime example of where it could be done. > > >>[0] http://rtg.ietf.org:8080/Test/tracker_exceptions > > >>If these assumptions hold, sending mails won't help. > > >>On the other hand, the notifications might be very helpful for cases >>where the ball is believed to be at the authors/WG's feet, and AD >>would need to find time to ping those folks (and now the system does >>that automatically). > > > The system does not do that automatically now. Or just barely. > > The email notification facilities in tracker are rudimentary. They > only happen for a limited number of state changes. They do not send > followups after an initial note. Only the AD can enter the email > addresses of those that get pinged (and if an email address goes bad, > its not obvious that anyone notices). In practice, many documents > don't have correct email addresses, etc., etc. > > This could be improved (and many people have suggested worthwhile > improvements), but requires improvements to tracker. And that work is > pretty much on hold until the secretariat transition to Neustar > completes... This is all very much on the IESG radar screen and is why we are planning an efficiency retreat, as I mentioned in plenary, and why the PROTO team is looking at necessary tool updates, as Allison mentioned in plenary. All this is *procedural* improvement, and not process reform. What we want to look at here is process reform. Brian _______________________________________________ Pesci-discuss mailing list Pesci-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pesci-discuss
- [Pesci-discuss] For whom it may concern.. Pekka Savola
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] For whom it may concern.. Leslie Daigle
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] For whom it may concern.. Pekka Savola
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] For whom it may concern.. JFC (Jefsey) Morfin
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] For whom it may concern.. Spencer Dawkins
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] For whom it may concern.. Spencer Dawkins
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] For whom it may concern.. Pekka Savola
- RE: [Pesci-discuss] For whom it may concern.. Margaret Wasserman
- RE: [Pesci-discuss] For whom it may concern.. Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] For whom it may concern.. Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- RE: [Pesci-discuss] For whom it may concern.. Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] For whom it may concern.. Pekka Savola
- RE: [Pesci-discuss] For whom it may concern.. Gray, Eric
- RE: [Pesci-discuss] For whom it may concern.. Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] For whom it may concern.. Brian E Carpenter
- RE: [Pesci-discuss] For whom it may concern.. Ash, Gerald R (Jerry), ALABS
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] For whom it may concern.. Thomas Narten
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] For whom it may concern.. Pekka Savola
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] For whom it may concern.. Thomas Narten
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] For whom it may concern.. Brian E Carpenter