Re: New Liaison Statement, "LS on ATSSS Phase 2 conclusions"

Christian Huitema <huitema@huitema.net> Tue, 01 December 2020 09:04 UTC

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Subject: Re: New Liaison Statement, "LS on ATSSS Phase 2 conclusions"
To: Gonzalo Camarillo <gonzalo.camarillo=40ericsson.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>, Liaison Statement Management Tool <statements@ietf.org>
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The policy on liaisons is indeed for the IAB to decide, not individual 
working groups let alone individual members of working groups. I read 
Marten's request as a polite suggestion, not an attempt to set policy. 
On the other hand, I think it would be a really good idea for the IAB to 
take that suggestion and make it part of our liaison policy, stating 
that the IETF would prefer to receive liaison statements in either text 
or PDF format...

-- Christian Huitema

On 11/30/2020 11:37 PM, Gonzalo Camarillo wrote:
>
> Hi Marten,
>
> our friends from 3GPP can probably convert that into a PDF trivially. 
> In any case, for future liaisons, is this a new official policy 
> approved by the IESG to handle incoming liaisons? If so, it would be 
> useful to inform all our liaison managers to make our expectations on 
> other organizations clear and avoid this type of back-and-forth 
> exchanges.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Gonzalo
>
> *From:* Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 1, 2020 06:17
> *To:* Liaison Statement Management Tool <statements@ietf.org>
> *Cc:* Lucas Pardue <lucaspardue.24.7@gmail.com>; Lars Eggert 
> <lars@eggert.org>; Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com>; 
> lionel.morand@orange.com; Gonzalo Camarillo 
> <gonzalo.camarillo@ericsson.com>; 3GPPLiaison@etsi.org; 
> chair@ietf.org; QUIC Discussion List <quic@ietf.org>; Martin Duke 
> <martin.h.duke@gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: New Liaison Statement, "LS on ATSSS Phase 2 conclusions"
>
> Would it be possible to publish this document in a format that can be 
> opened by everyone without using proprietary software?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Marten
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 10:40 PM Liaison Statement Management Tool 
> <statements@ietf.org <mailto:statements@ietf.org>> wrote:
>
>     Title: LS on ATSSS Phase 2 conclusions
>     Submission Date: 2020-11-30
>     URL of the IETF Web page:
>     https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1710/
>     <https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1710/>
>
>     From: Susanna Kooistra <3GPPLiaison@etsi.org
>     <mailto:3GPPLiaison@etsi.org>>
>     To: Lars Eggert <lars@eggert.org <mailto:lars@eggert.org>>,Lucas
>     Pardue <lucaspardue.24.7@gmail.com
>     <mailto:lucaspardue.24.7@gmail.com>>
>     Cc: QUIC Discussion List <quic@ietf.org
>     <mailto:quic@ietf.org>>,Martin Duke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com
>     <mailto:martin.h.duke@gmail.com>>,Magnus Westerlund
>     <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com
>     <mailto:magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com>>,Lucas Pardue
>     <lucaspardue.24.7@gmail.com
>     <mailto:lucaspardue.24.7@gmail.com>>,Lars Eggert <lars@eggert.org
>     <mailto:lars@eggert.org>>,gonzalo.camarillo@ericsson.com
>     <mailto:gonzalo.camarillo@ericsson.com>,chair@ietf.org
>     <mailto:chair@ietf.org>
>     Response Contacts: lionel.morand@orange.com
>     <mailto:lionel.morand@orange.com>,3GPPLiaison@etsi.org
>     <mailto:3GPPLiaison@etsi.org>
>     Technical Contacts:
>     Purpose: For information
>
>     Body:
>     Attachments:
>
>         S2-2009400_8852r02
>     https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/documents/LIAISON/liaison-2020-11-30-3gpp-tsgsa-sa2-quic-ls-on-atsss-phase-2-conclusions-attachment-1.doc
>     <https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/documents/LIAISON/liaison-2020-11-30-3gpp-tsgsa-sa2-quic-ls-on-atsss-phase-2-conclusions-attachment-1.doc>
>