Re: Proposal: Run QUIC over DTLS

"Brian Trammell (IETF)" <ietf@trammell.ch> Wed, 07 March 2018 17:52 UTC

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Subject: Re: Proposal: Run QUIC over DTLS
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2018 18:52:26 +0100
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> On 7 Mar 2018, at 18:50, Christopher Wood <christopherwood07@gmail.com>; wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 6:53 AM, Brian Trammell (IETF) <ietf@trammell.ch>; wrote:
>> tl;dr: what Ted said, plus what Lars said.
>> 
>> Relayering QUIC on top of DTLS seems to me to be an interesting version 2 exercise. At this point, it's definitely worth investigating how QUIC invariants and VN can be made compatible with an "upgrade" during VN to a QUIC layered over DTLS, but I think it's too late to make this change for V1.
> 
> Yes, it may be too late. However, if we can experiment early without
> risk of impacting the current trajectory or London hackathon plans, I
> would like to do so.

...plus what Chris said.

cheers,

Brian