Re: Preparing for discussion on what to do about the multipath extension milestone

Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> Sun, 04 October 2020 23:53 UTC

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From: Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2020 18:52:49 -0500
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Subject: Re: Preparing for discussion on what to do about the multipath extension milestone
To: Lucas Pardue <lucaspardue.24.7@gmail.com>
Cc: Olivier Bonaventure <Olivier.Bonaventure@uclouvain.be>, Christoph Paasch <cpaasch@apple.com>, Matt Joras <matt.joras@gmail.com>, QUIC WG <quic@ietf.org>, Ian Swett <ianswett=40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
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Hi, Lucas,

On Sun, Oct 4, 2020, 18:33 Lucas Pardue <lucaspardue.24.7@gmail.com> wrote:

> Olivier,
>
> Many thanks for these resources. I'm slowly reading and digesting.
> Quentin's Thesis I think has some good discussion about consideration
> factors for an MP-QUIC abstract design, such as consideration of path
> validation etc. I don't know if uniflow is the correct design but it
> definitely helps to understand the motivation for it.
>
> MP-QUIC appears to offer some things that conventional QUIC might not be
> able to do*. But it, to me, also presents some problems that don't exist
> today. As an individual commenter, not having an in-band signal for uniflow
> prioritisation gives me cause for concern. If I were to deploy an MP-QUIC
> general-purpose server, I don't have much confidence that I could meet the
> use cases that clients want.
>
> Cheers
> Lucas
>
> * Spencer occasionally mentions muticast in this thread, which I think is
> the autocorrect kicking in. But it's mention is relevant because the
> asymmetry of uniflows, and separation of data and control channels could
> solve some of the problems that draft-pardue-quic-http-mcast goes to length
> to design around.
>

That would have been unintentional, but I'm glad if I make helpful errors
from time to time. ;-)

Best,

Spencer

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