Re: Hardware acceleration and packet number encryption

Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> Mon, 02 April 2018 06:14 UTC

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Subject: Re: Hardware acceleration and packet number encryption
From: Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>
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To: Praveen Balasubramanian <pravb=40microsoft.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
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Hi Praveen,

On 1 Apr 2018, at 4:17 am, Praveen Balasubramanian <pravb=40microsoft.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
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> PN size and location needs to be part of invariants. How the field is transformed and encoded in the clear is an end-to-end function and can change between versions. 

Invariants is in WGLC now, but does not include packet numbers. If you believe it needs to be in there, please raise an issue and we can discuss it (in a separate thread).

Cheers,


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