Re: [rfc-i] [Rsoc] RFCs with page numbers (pretty please) ?

"John R. Levine" <johnl@iecc.com> Sun, 01 November 2020 15:00 UTC

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>> What formats do you believe don't have section numbers?  They're in all
>> three rendered formats and in the XML as tags like "section-3.1".
>
> They aren't in raw XML and they aren't in kramdown, so they aren't where
> an author needs them when processing comments on an I-D. (So, strictly,
> that isn't an RFC format issue, but it is an issue created by our format
> choices and it's quite an annoyance.)

Sounds like yet another thing that could be improved with better tooling. 
Adding and updating comments with section numbers isn't exactly rocket 
science.

Regards,
John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies",
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