Re: [Rfced-future] Welcome to the RFC Editor Future Development Program
Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> Fri, 03 April 2020 05:25 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Rfced-future] Welcome to the RFC Editor Future Development Program
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On 2020-04-03, at 06:46, Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> wrote: > > On 03.04.2020 05:07, John R. Levine wrote: >>> During the AUTH48 period, whoever is reviewing the document needs to >>> check ALL of the formats, especially around examples and figures and >>> any non-ascii text. >> >> Currently the RPC people are proofreading all of the output formats, >> which takes a lot of work. I hope authors are also, but that's up to them. >> ... > > That sounds like a bug in the process to me. And it won't scale if we > add ePub. > > There should be *one* format that is to be proofread, HTML. If the other > output formats have an issue, that's a tooling problem that needs to be > solved, and the other formats can be regenerated. This doesn’t work too well in an environment where the tooling is fluid, and in fact the format that the tooling works from and its interpretation is fluid as well. When the tooling has a bug (read: it uses the interpretation of 2020-04-02), and the XML is adapted to work around this bug, and the tooling is then fixed (read: it now uses the interpretation of 2020-04-03), the new output may be erroneous. Putting the “to be interpreted with the bugs of 2020-04-02” into the XML makes this workable, but it might be preferable to give up the idea that the XML is immutable and allow up-conversion into the format of 2020-04-03. We probably should have recognized that we would be working with a beta v3 for a while. We could still recognize that there will be a v4, and a v5, ... I’m not saying that I have a solution to this problem. Proofreading the HTML is probably the right thing for an author (in particular if not an XML aficionado). One view at the TXT is prudent as well. Grüße, Carsten
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- Re: [Rfced-future] Welcome to the RFC Editor Futu… Andrew G. Malis
- Re: [Rfced-future] Welcome to the RFC Editor Futu… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Rfced-future] Welcome to the RFC Editor Futu… John C Klensin
- Re: [Rfced-future] Welcome to the RFC Editor Futu… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Rfced-future] Welcome to the RFC Editor Futu… Michael StJohns
- Re: [Rfced-future] Welcome to the RFC Editor Futu… Lucy Lynch
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- Re: [Rfced-future] [IAB] Welcome to the RFC Edito… Wes Hardaker
- Re: [Rfced-future] [IAB] Welcome to the RFC Edito… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [Rfced-future] [IAB] Welcome to the RFC Edito… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Rfced-future] [IAB] Welcome to the RFC Edito… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Rfced-future] [IAB] Welcome to the RFC Edito… John C Klensin
- Re: [Rfced-future] [IAB] Welcome to the RFC Edito… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [Rfced-future] [IAB] Welcome to the RFC Edito… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Rfced-future] [IAB] Welcome to the RFC Edito… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Rfced-future] [IAB] Welcome to the RFC Edito… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Rfced-future] Welcome to the RFC Editor Futu… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Rfced-future] [IAB] Welcome to the RFC Edito… Jari Arkko
- Re: [Rfced-future] Welcome to the RFC Editor Futu… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Rfced-future] Welcome to the RFC Editor Futu… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Rfced-future] Welcome to the RFC Editor Futu… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Rfced-future] [IAB] Welcome to the RFC Edito… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [Rfced-future] [IAB] Welcome to the RFC Edito… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Rfced-future] [IAB] Welcome to the RFC Edito… John C Klensin
- Re: [Rfced-future] [IAB] Welcome to the RFC Edito… John Levine
- Re: [Rfced-future] Welcome to the RFC Editor Futu… John C Klensin
- Re: [Rfced-future] Welcome to the RFC Editor Futu… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Rfced-future] Welcome to the RFC Editor Futu… Larry Masinter
- Re: [Rfced-future] Welcome to the RFC Editor Futu… Christian Huitema
- Re: [Rfced-future] Welcome to the RFC Editor Futu… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Rfced-future] Welcome to the RFC Editor Futu… Christian Huitema
- Re: [Rfced-future] Welcome to the RFC Editor Futu… Michael StJohns
- Re: [Rfced-future] Welcome to the RFC Editor Futu… Michael StJohns
- Re: [Rfced-future] Welcome to the RFC Editor Futu… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Rfced-future] Welcome to the RFC Editor Futu… Larry Masinter
- Re: [Rfced-future] Welcome to the RFC Editor Futu… John C Klensin
- Re: [Rfced-future] Welcome to the RFC Editor Futu… jmh.direct@joelhalpern.com
- [Rfced-future] AUTH48 and editing before approval… John C Klensin
- Re: [Rfced-future] Welcome to the RFC Editor Futu… Larry Masinter
- Re: [Rfced-future] AUTH48 and editing before appr… Russ Housley
- Re: [Rfced-future] AUTH48 and editing before appr… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Rfced-future] AUTH48 and editing before appr… Russ Housley
- Re: [Rfced-future] AUTH48 and editing before appr… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Rfced-future] AUTH48 and editing before appr… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Rfced-future] AUTH48 and editing before appr… Michael StJohns
- Re: [Rfced-future] AUTH48 and editing before appr… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Rfced-future] AUTH48 and editing before appr… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Rfced-future] AUTH48 and editing before appr… John C Klensin
- Re: [Rfced-future] AUTH48 and editing before appr… John Levine
- Re: [Rfced-future] Welcome to the RFC Editor Futu… John Levine
- Re: [Rfced-future] Welcome to the RFC Editor Futu… Andrew G. Malis
- Re: [Rfced-future] Welcome to the RFC Editor Futu… John R. Levine
- [Rfced-future] Up level [Re: AUTH48 and editing b… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Rfced-future] AUTH48 and editing before appr… Russ Housley
- Re: [Rfced-future] AUTH48 and editing before appr… Christian Huitema
- Re: [Rfced-future] Welcome to the RFC Editor Futu… Larry Masinter
- Re: [Rfced-future] Welcome to the RFC Editor Futu… John R. Levine
- Re: [Rfced-future] Welcome to the RFC Editor Futu… Julian Reschke
- Re: [Rfced-future] Welcome to the RFC Editor Futu… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Rfced-future] Welcome to the RFC Editor Futu… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Rfced-future] Welcome to the RFC Editor Futu… Julian Reschke
- Re: [Rfced-future] Welcome to the RFC Editor Futu… Julian Reschke
- Re: [Rfced-future] Welcome to the RFC Editor Futu… John R. Levine
- Re: [Rfced-future] AUTH48 and editing before appr… John C Klensin
- Re: [Rfced-future] AUTH48 and editing before appr… Russ Housley
- Re: [Rfced-future] Welcome to the RFC Editor Futu… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Rfced-future] Welcome to the RFC Editor Futu… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Rfced-future] Welcome to the RFC Editor Futu… John R. Levine
- Re: [Rfced-future] AUTH48 and editing before appr… John C Klensin
- Re: [Rfced-future] AUTH48 and editing before appr… Christian Huitema
- Re: [Rfced-future] Welcome to the RFC Editor Futu… John C Klensin
- Re: [Rfced-future] Welcome to the RFC Editor Futu… John Levine
- Re: [Rfced-future] [IAB] Welcome to the RFC Edito… Mark Nottingham