Re: [rohc] New ROHC Milesstones.
Carl Knutsson <carl.knutsson@effnet.com> Thu, 10 September 2009 10:08 UTC
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Cc: Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org>, rohc@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [rohc] New ROHC Milesstones.
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Carsten, Ghyslain, I agree with Ghyslain here. I am having a hard time seeing any technical argument that would motivate these new profiles. /Calle (individual) Ghyslain Pelletier wrote: > Hello Carsten, others, > > Given earlier discussions on this topic, my recollection is that there > was no agreement to move this as a working group draft. The reasons for > this was the lack of motivations, requirements or interest in pursuing > this work. Furthermore, this would introduce additional complexity to > our protocol, and the proposed solution has not been reviewed > technically. > >> There are no new problems being solved, so much is true. >> But they are solved in a different way > > Given the admitted lack of a real problem to address, new solutions > appear unnecessary and not worth-while the effort. Further, I do not > believe that getting around some suspected IPRs (to possibly fall into > other IPRs) is a typical motivation for specifying new profiles. > > Cheers, > > ///Ghyslain > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: rohc-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:rohc-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Carsten Bormann > Sent: den 10 september 2009 11:03 > To: Carl Knutsson > Cc: rohc@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [rohc] New ROHC Milesstones. > > > On Sep 10, 2009, at 10:35, Carl Knutsson wrote: > >> Feb 2007 - ROHC encapsulation profile(s) for IPHC/CRTP/eCRTP submitted >> to IESG for publication as Proposed Standard > > I wrote a draft for that, > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-bormann-rohc-avt-crtp-profile-00 > > As far as I know, this is technically complete and could be submitted to > WGLC. > >> =This was added before I started as a chair and it is not completely >> clear to me what the consensus is for this item. I can't really see >> what these new legacy profiles solve that can't be solved by existing >> profiles. > > There are no new problems being solved, so much is true. > But they are solved in a different way, and possibly with different IPR > considerations, based on existing IETF standards documents. > I can't speak to the IPR considerations (and I would not want to discuss > them on the WG list), but I've heard that some people are interested in > them in the hallway. > > Gruesse, Carsten > > _______________________________________________ > Rohc mailing list > Rohc@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rohc
- [rohc] New ROHC Milesstones. Carl Knutsson
- Re: [rohc] New ROHC Milesstones. Carsten Bormann
- Re: [rohc] New ROHC Milesstones. Ghyslain Pelletier
- Re: [rohc] New ROHC Milesstones. Ghyslain Pelletier
- Re: [rohc] New ROHC Milesstones. Carl Knutsson
- Re: [rohc] New ROHC Milesstones. Carsten Bormann
- Re: [rohc] New ROHC Milesstones. pelle
- Re: [rohc] New ROHC Milesstones. Carsten Bormann
- Re: [rohc] New ROHC Milesstones. Emre Ertekin
- Re: [rohc] New ROHC Milesstones. Carl Knutsson
- Re: [rohc] New ROHC Milesstones. Carl Knutsson
- Re: [rohc] New ROHC Milesstones. Ghyslain Pelletier
- Re: [rohc] New ROHC Milesstones. Zhu Lei
- Re: [rohc] New ROHC Milesstones. Carl Knutsson
- Re: [rohc] New ROHC Milesstones. Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [rohc] New ROHC Milesstones. Carl Knutsson
- Re: [rohc] New ROHC Milesstones. Carsten Bormann
- Re: [rohc] New ROHC Milesstones. Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [rohc] New ROHC Milesstones. Carsten Bormann
- Re: [rohc] New ROHC Milesstones. Zhu Lei