Re: [Roll] Adoption of draft-goyal-roll-rpl-compression as a new ROLL WG document

Mukul Goyal <mukul@uwm.edu> Sun, 04 September 2011 23:34 UTC

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Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2011 18:35:49 -0500
From: Mukul Goyal <mukul@uwm.edu>
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Subject: Re: [Roll] Adoption of draft-goyal-roll-rpl-compression as a new ROLL WG document
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Michael

It is not a replacement. It is an optional feature. This feature is to be used in deployments that consider it to be useful. Such deployments would probably have all devices implement this feature. Or such deployments would be OK with the fact that any devices that do not implement this feature would not be able to talk to the devices that do. Other deployments need not use this feature. 

Thanks
Mukul  

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From: "Michael Richardson" <mcr@sandelman.ca>
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Subject: Re: [Roll] Adoption of draft-goyal-roll-rpl-compression as a new	ROLL WG document


>>>>> "Mukul" == Mukul Goyal <mukul@uwm.edu> writes:
    Mukul> There was a lot of opposition to adding more stuff to core
    Mukul> RPL. The (valid) argument was that any further additions
    Mukul> would be introduced as supplementary documents. Now that core
    Mukul> RPL is (almost) done, objections in the name of
    Mukul> interoperability are being raised to deny useful extensions
    Mukul> of the protocol and even to attack the core protocol
    Mukul> itself. I find it to be a sorry state of affairs.

The issue Mukul is that GRRC is not an addition to RPL, it is a
replacement.


(I don't know who "IetfRoll@yahoo.com" is, it would be nice if you could
use a real name, or at least use a useful pseudonym)

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