Re: [rtcweb] Filling in details on "trickle ICE"
Emil Ivov <emcho@jitsi.org> Tue, 28 August 2012 06:11 UTC
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Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 08:11:25 +0200
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Filling in details on "trickle ICE"
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On 28.08.12, 08:04, Emil Ivov wrote: > The main issue is that there's currently nothing in 5245 that would > allow an agent to determine if more candidates are to be expected. If > trickling is in use there's no way for a controlled agent to know that > (or if) more candidates are to be expected. This creates a race > condition which may result in the controlled agent moving into the "ICE > Failed" state before it has received all candidates from the controlling > agent. I just noticed that this is also what Eric's original mail was about, so I suppose I just second his concern. We had the issue in ice4j and we basically just had to implement and tune it in a way that would work against other common ICE impls. Text that specifies exactly how this is to be done would have been most helpful. Emil -- https://jitsi.org
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- Re: [rtcweb] Filling in details on "trickle ICE" Emil Ivov
- Re: [rtcweb] Filling in details on "trickle ICE" Emil Ivov
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