Re: [rtcweb] Filling in details on "trickle ICE"

Emil Ivov <> Thu, 18 October 2012 09:54 UTC

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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Filling in details on "trickle ICE"
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Hey folks,

On 18.10.12, 08:30, Christer Holmberg wrote:
> On 17.10.12, 22:40, Matthew Kaufman wrote:
>> 4) How does trickle ICE work without “relaxing” RFC3264 O/A? It
>> seems like you really want to be able to trickle via updated offers
>> that may be generated prior to the corresponding answer or reject?
> One of my comments on the trickle draft was about that. The draft
> says that a new offer can be sent "at any time", but my comment was
> that it should be according to 3264.

That's not exactly what the draft says. What it does say is:

  At any point of ICE processing, a trickle ICE agent may receive new
  candidates from the remote agent.

> IF we are going to relax 3264 (I really hope we are NOT), it needs to
> be clearly described somewhere. We cannot have a number of I-Ds doing
> it "on the run"...

I don't see how trickle ICE would require any changes to the O/A model.
Candidate trickling semantics are completely separate from those in 3264.

Yes, the 3264 offer may, in some cases, contain a first batch of
candidates and the the 3264 may have to be delayed until ICE processing
yields valid pairs for every component but that's about it.

Am I missing something?