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Re: [rtcweb] Filling in details on "trickle ICE"

"Cullen Jennings (fluffy)" <fluffy@cisco.com> Tue, 28 August 2012 13:05 UTC

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From: "Cullen Jennings (fluffy)" <fluffy@cisco.com>
To: Bernard Aboba <bernard_aboba@hotmail.com>
Thread-Topic: [rtcweb] Filling in details on "trickle ICE"
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Filling in details on "trickle ICE"
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On Aug 27, 2012, at 4:29 PM, Bernard Aboba <bernard_aboba@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Emil Ivov said: 
> 
> Well an ICE stack that implements trickle as per XEP-0176 would currently
> not interoperate with a 5245 implementation or, at best, would lead to
> unpredictable results.
> 
> The description in XEP-0176 is actually quite perfunctory and can't really
> be considered a proper specification.
> 
> A document that describes a proper way of implementing this would hence be
> quite helpful.
> 
> [BA]  You are correct that XMPP/Jingle signaling will not be understood by a
> SIP UA.  However,   I don't see anything inherent in the use of STUN/TURN 
> within XEP-0176 that violates RFC 5245.  If the issue is lack of clarity in
> XEP-0176, shouldn't that be brought up in the XSF, which owns the
> specification?
> 

XEP-0176 mostly tells you how to transport the trickle candidates. It does not answer the questions of ICE works with trickle candidates and there are a bunch of them as raised in EKR's email and others. Note these are not new concerns - many of these were discussed with Rohan back when he was writing the Jingle stuff. We just never sorted them out.

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