Re: [saag] SSH & Ntruprime

Watson Ladd <watsonbladd@gmail.com> Thu, 11 April 2024 02:07 UTC

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From: Watson Ladd <watsonbladd@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2024 19:07:05 -0700
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Subject: Re: [saag] SSH & Ntruprime
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On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 7:05 PM StJohns, Michael <msj@nthpermutation.com> wrote:
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> On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 21:06 Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> wrote:
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>> Hiya,
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>> On 10/04/2024 19:41, Michael StJohns wrote:
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>> > Yeah - 8447 was an effective example of a submarine submission.
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>> I don't think that's at all accurate. TLS is one or our
>> currently very important protocols so nothing coming from
>> that WG could reasonably be described as taking a submarine
>> approach IMO.
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> I’m going to stick with the word as, intentional or not, it’s sort of what the record shows.
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> According to the datracker, you were the document shepherd, but the shepherd report that Sean added to the tracker was done against the -03 draft (note the date of the report vs the post date of -04).  The -04 draft was where the notes were added.  None of the text in either the shepherd report nor the last call announcement text mentioned that  IDs were now acceptable for Specification Required references.

Why do you think that this applies to anything other than the
registries specifically named in the RFC?
Sincerely,
Watson