Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop -- Service Orchestration and Desciption for Cloud Services
"Ashish Dalela (adalela)" <adalela@cisco.com> Thu, 16 February 2012 16:28 UTC
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From: "Ashish Dalela (adalela)" <adalela@cisco.com>
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>> Be careful. Others have brought up similar proposal before. IETF stands for Internet Engineering TF... Networking is the name of the game. ;-) If not networking, I fear it would be wrong place to do the work. That I disagree with because HTTP, SIP, SMTP, SOAP, SNMP are all L7 protocols. I wonder how many people call that networking .. but in a way they are Internet. Certain things like SNMP go beyond networks. SOAP goes even beyond infrastructure. SMTP is totally application, and so is SIP and HTTP. Did you see the drafts yet? The requirement draft has a section “Is Cloud Control an Internet Problem?”. The intent of that section is to describe why IETF is the place to do this work. Thanks, Ashish From: sop-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:sop-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ping Pan Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 9:48 PM To: Ashish Dalela (adalela) Cc: sop@ietf.org Subject: Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop -- Service Orchestration and Desciption for Cloud Services On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 8:09 AM, Ashish Dalela (adalela) <adalela@cisco.com> wrote: This isn’t just about the network resources and SOP isn’t only about provisioning network resources. The protocol definition is generalized to support any kind of service – network included. Be careful. Others have brought up similar proposal before. IETF stands for Internet Engineering TF... Networking is the name of the game. ;-) If not networking, I fear it would be wrong place to do the work. In SDN, our focus is on networking. Further, we are trying to distance ourselves from the actual DC network fabric design (all vendor-specific so far). Regards, Ping
- [sop] New Non-WG Mailing List: sop -- Service Orc… IETF Secretariat
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Monique Morrow
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Thomas Nadeau
- Re: [sop] FW: [Sdnp] New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Thomas Nadeau
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Ashish Dalela (adalela)
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Scott Brim
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Ping Pan
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Ashish Dalela (adalela)
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Michael Hammer
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Ping Pan
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Ping Pan
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Ashish Dalela (adalela)
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Michael Hammer
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Ping Pan
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Ping Pan
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Ashish Dalela (adalela)
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Michael Hammer
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Thomas Nadeau
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Ashish Dalela (adalela)
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Michael Hammer
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Michael Hammer
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Ping Pan
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Thomas Nadeau
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Ashish Dalela (adalela)
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Michael Hammer
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [sop] -- Service Orchestration and Desciption… Ashish Dalela (adalela)
- Re: [sop] -- Service Orchestration and Desciption… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [sop] -- Service Orchestration and Desciption… Ashish Dalela (adalela)
- Re: [sop] -- Service Orchestration and Desciption… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] New Non-WG Mailing List: sop -- … DIEGO LOPEZ GARCIA
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] New Non-WG Mailing List: sop -- … Ashish Dalela (adalela)
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] New Non-WG Mailing List: sop -- … DIEGO LOPEZ GARCIA
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] New Non-WG Mailing List: sop -- … Ashish Dalela (adalela)