Re: [spring] Request to close the LC and move forward//RE: WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming
Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net> Wed, 26 February 2020 19:16 UTC
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Subject: Re: [spring] Request to close the LC and move forward//RE: WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming
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I would suggest that people read RFC 7282 - "On Consensus and Humming in the IETF", especially Sections 3 & 6 (it is a short document, you should read the whole thing, but pay special attention to these sections). It doesn't really matter how many people say +1 for moving it forwards -- if there are valid technical objections these have to be dealt with - and I think that the relationship with RFC8200 falling into this category... W On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 2:01 PM John Leddy <john@leddy.net> wrote: > > +1 in support of moving the document forward. > > John Leddy > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Feb 26, 2020, at 10:22 AM, Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Zafar, > > > >> On Feb 26, 2020, at 9:43 AM, Zafar Ali (zali) <zali=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > >> > >> +1, > >> > >> Just to add, in the spirit of IETF https://www.ietf.org/how/runningcode/ … > >> implementation, commercial deployment and Inter-op status has been documented in https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-matsushima-spring-srv6-deployment-status/ > > > > I think the proper question is there a consensus to advance this document. > > > > There seems to be questions about its relationship with RFC8200. I am not seeing this as being resolved. > > > > Bob > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > IETF IPv6 working group mailing list > > ipv6@ietf.org > > Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > IETF IPv6 working group mailing list > ipv6@ietf.org > Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 > -------------------------------------------------------------------- -- I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad idea in the first place. This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair of pants. ---maf
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