Re: [tcpm] SYN/ACK Payloads, draft 01

Eric Rescorla <ekr@networkresonance.com> Wed, 13 August 2008 20:25 UTC

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From: Eric Rescorla <ekr@networkresonance.com>
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Subject: Re: [tcpm] SYN/ACK Payloads, draft 01
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At Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:07:45 -0700,
Adam Langley wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 12:50 PM, Eric Rescorla
> <ekr@networkresonance.com> wrote:
> > Well, this is just an unsupported claim in the presentation, so I have
> > no idea what the underlying data is. However, superficially I find it
> > deeply implausible.
> 
> As I suggested, this data is considered secret by the organisations
> who have it. But I can say that, had I suggested an opportunistic
> system that required an extra round trip, various teams here (at
> Google) would have (rightfully) laughed at me. I know that sucks as an
> argument, but I can't release company data. I'm a bit stuck here
> sadly.

You're right, it does suck as an argument. And given that it's
superficially implausible for the reasons you elided, I don't feel the
need to entertain this as a serious design objective.

If/when you can come up with someone who is actually willing to
share this data, I'll be happy to reconsider that position.

-Ekr
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