Re: [Teas] WG adoption poll: draft-bestbar-teas-ns-packet-08

[Lou Berger <[e-mail]>]

Hi,

Thank you for the clarification.  My "reading of the room" was there was 
sufficient support to warrant bringing a modified version of this 
document into the WG as a *starting point* for a WG document on this 
topic.  This said, and as always, a WG document is subject to change/the 
consensus of the WG.  Finally, we are contribution driven, so if an 
alternate document is brought forward we can discuss that document and 
it's relationship to existing WG documents.

See you (virtually) soon,

Lou

On 3/9/2022 2:18 AM, [e-mail] wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I received some offline messages asking to clarify the concern. I was also kindly asked to send the clarification to the list.
>
> The root issue is that there are many requested changes in the document, while it is not evident that we need something new. The document has to justify the real need for any change it proposes. That’s what I want to be challenged. I won't care if it happens that there will be ipr after we have done that exercise appropriately.
>
> Starting with a new document would be a good signal in that direction.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Cheers,
> Med
>
>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De : Teas <[e-mail]> De la part de
>> [e-mail]
>> Envoyé : mardi 8 mars 2022 16:30
>> À : Lou Berger <[e-mail]>; TEAS WG <[e-mail]>
>> Cc : TEAS WG Chairs <[e-mail]>; draft-bestbar-teas-ns-
>> [e-mail]
>> Objet : Re: [Teas] WG adoption poll: draft-bestbar-teas-ns-packet-08
>>
>> Hi Lou,
>>
>> I'm not sure how the IPR issue will be fixed by maintaining this same
>> document as starting point.
>>
>> The authors can go with a clean document that addresses the various
>> comments received so far. That's the only way I see to formally
>> rechallenge the applicability of the disclosures.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Med
>>
>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>> De : Teas <[e-mail]> De la part de Lou Berger Envoyé :
>>> mardi 8 mars 2022 16:10 À : TEAS WG <[e-mail]> Cc : TEAS WG
>>> Chairs <[e-mail]>; draft-bestbar-teas-ns- [e-mail]
>>> Objet : Re: [Teas] WG adoption poll: draft-bestbar-teas-ns-packet-08
>>>
>>> WG,
>>>
>>> This adoption poll is now closed. Thank you all for the very good
>>> responses and discussion!
>>>
>>> To me, I read the discussion as saying the document is very close to
>>> being a good starting point as a WG document.  To get us there, I
>>> think we need the following:
>>>
>>> 1) That the authors issue an update covering their planned/discussed
>>> changes
>>>
>>> 2) Add a section that lists the open issues that should be addressed
>>> prior to the WG Last Call and being submitted to the IESG for
>>> publication
>>>
>>> 3) Change the document to Informational -- as there are currently no
>>> interop or defined external behaviors required by the document
>>>
>>> Once this is done, I ask the WG to review this version and re-raise
>>> any issue that they raised during the adoption call that is not
>>> addressed or captured in the new Open Issues section.
>>>
>>> Once all adoption issues are addressed or documented, the document
>>> will be republished as a -00 WG document.
>>>
>>> Thank you all for your contribution to the WG!
>>>
>>> Lou (as Co-chair)
>>>
>>> On 2/18/2022 8:28 AM, Lou Berger wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> This email begins a 2-week adoption poll for:
>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-bestbar-teas-ns-packet/
>>>>
>>>> Please note that IPR has been disclosed on this document:
>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?submit=draft&id=draft-bestb
>>>> ar
>>>> -teas-ns-packet
>>>>
>>>> Please voice your support or objections to adoption on the list by
>>>> the
>>> end of the day (any time zone) March 4.
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> Lou (as Co-chair)
>>>>
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