Re: [TLS] Industry Concerns about TLS 1.3

["Salz, Rich" <[e-mail]>]

>   This lack of scope, depth and detail [in MITM infrastructures] are what drove us to
> install the packet collection infrastructures (debugging networks I think some
> are saying).

At the risk of repeating myself and flogging this dead horse...  What you are doing is exactly what the nation-state actors are doing.  I bet that some even use that exact phrase of "packet collection infrastructure." 

I understand that if you want to use TLS 1.3, it is going to be expensive and/or inconvenient; you're going to have to educate regulators and get bespoke TLS endpoint solutions from vendors. Perhaps you can get the NSA's to stop collecting everyone's Internet traffic for future decoding?

Less flippantly, what specifically would you have us do? What do you want in the protocol that enables your needs, but doesn't make it possible for everyone in the world to be surveilled?  Please, make some specific suggestions.