Re: [tsvwg] Gorry Fairhurst Individual thoughts on choosing whether/how to advance ECN work.
Gorry Fairhurst <gorry@erg.abdn.ac.uk> Mon, 25 May 2020 07:47 UTC
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Subject: Re: [tsvwg] Gorry Fairhurst Individual thoughts on choosing whether/how to advance ECN work.
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Hello, On 24/05/2020 13:37, Sebastian Moeller wrote: > Hi Gorry, > > On 24 May 2020 10:01:33 CEST, Gorry Fairhurst <gorry@erg.abdn.ac.uk> wrote: >> On 24/05/2020 05:21, Jonathan Morton wrote: >>> I think I'll leave Paul and Sebastian to comment further in this >> vein. >>> - Jonathan Morton >> If you decide to comment more, could you please finish that very >> quickly >> - the WG has decided to work on L4S. > [SM] On the danger of stating the obvious, that decision to work on L4S makes it quite important to highlight and discuss all the pain-points of the current L4S design, implementation and drafts. Unless I misunderstand what "work on L4S" is supposed to entail... > > >> There are topics that the WG needs to address, and I think this >> discussion is not helping the WG make progress. > [SM] For better or worse, this WG will be held partially accountable, for L4S meeting it's claims, so I consider discussion of those claims, with the eventual goal of finally de-hyping the draft text, pretty on-topic and relevant for the mailing list. > > BUT, since that is so obvious that I assume I must be misunderstanding your point, so please show me where/how. > > > > Best Regards > Sebastian > >> Gorry I think it would be more normal to discuss or provide comments on a specific section of a document. If there are claims there, then maybe these do need to be looked at - it's not uncommon that the text around performance/merits in a spec need to be reviewed before a document completes WGLC. Gorry
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