[tsvwg] Dual-Q Polcing

Gorry Fairhurst <gorry@erg.abdn.ac.uk> Mon, 25 May 2020 08:39 UTC

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From: Gorry Fairhurst <gorry@erg.abdn.ac.uk>
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Subject: [tsvwg] Dual-Q Polcing
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So, this was your comment in Dual-Q:

On 25/05/2020 09:13, Sebastian Moeller wrote:
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-aqm-dualq-coupled-11#page-21:
> "Where the interests of users or flows might conflict, it could be
>     necessary to police traffic to isolate any harm to the performance of
>     individual flows.  However it is hard to avoid unintended side-
>     effects with policing, and in a trusted environment policing is not
>     necessary."

The general security considerations across section 4 seems reasonable to me.

Did you have issues with that text wrt security considerations?

Gorry