Re: [tsvwg] Dual-Q Pol[i]cing

"C. M. Heard" <heard@pobox.com> Mon, 25 May 2020 16:21 UTC

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Date: Mon, 25 May 2020 09:21:17 -0700
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Subject: Re: [tsvwg] Dual-Q Pol[i]cing
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On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 8:50 AM Paul Vixie wrote:
> On Monday, 25 May 2020 10:00:30 UTC Sebastian Moeller wrote:
> > ... Is everybody else convinced that L4S offers a sufficiently
> > safe design and was tested with the to be expected level of adversarial
> > traffic patterns to confirm the design's safety in the real-world?
>
> so, no, i am not convinced, but that doesn't matter. what matters is that
> if there is an input signal marked on a flow, datagram, packet, or segment
> which would cause my routing or switching equipment to behave differently,
> such as choosing one of two "dual queues", then i will likely never enable
> it, and if i do enable it i will bleach that mark out of inbound traffic
> from the WAN.

Because it may inform the conversation, is your current policy to disable ECN
marking and/or to bleach ECN bits out of inbound traffic from the WAN? Per
RFC 3168, those bits are intended to affect drop vs mark behavior of routers.

Mike Heard