Re: [Tsvwg] Adopting draft-behringer-tsvwg-rsvp-security-groupkeying as WG item?

[Magnus Westerlund <[e-mail]>]

Lars Eggert skrev:
> Hi, Brian,
> 
> On 2008-1-28, at 19:58, ext Brian Weis wrote:
>> Calling draft-behringer-tsvwg a "survey" of "group keying for RSVP" 
>> isn't an entirely accurate statement. It's a much more fundamental 
>> description of RSVP security: it documents the RSVP trust model 
>> (perhaps for the first time), and from there it describes the 
>> appropriate uses for RSVP keys that should be used within different 
>> network topologies, as well as provisioning methods for those keys. 
>> Although these topics don't motivate new TSVWG protocol development, 
>> taking ownership of these RSVP security fundamentals is important for 
>> TSVWG. I believe that is a good rationale for accepting 
>> draft-behringer-tsvwg as a WG item.
> 
> I agree with you, and I said during the Vancouver meeting that I'd see 
> such an Informational document in scope for TSVWG.
> 
> However, I'm now hesitating, because I've heard the argument being made 
> (both in Vancouver during SAAG and in the recent email by Francois) that 
> the acceptance of draft-behringer-tsvwg-rsvp-security-groupkeying as a 
> TSVWG work item would establish a need to work on a solution in MSEC 
> (based on draft-weis-gdoi-for-rsvp). I don't agree with this argument. 
> At best, the document would identify a hole in the solution space, and 
> if MSEC wants to fill that, I'd need to find its own motivation for 
> doing so.
> 

To be clear, any solutions work, even if need is clearly identified in a 
TSVWG document would still require the chartering somewhere in the IETF. 
And for doing chartering this may in addition require a BOF to discuss 
if this is suitable work. I would please request that anyone jumps to 
conclusions by doing this document.

Cheers

Magnus Westerlund

IETF Transport Area Director & TSVWG Chair
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