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From: "Kawashima Masanobu(川島　正伸)" <kawashimam@nec.com>
To: Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org>, Gert Doering <gert@space.net>
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] IPv6 mostly for DS-Lite
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Still ISP can choose any mechanisms on their side. We can't control it. 

In Japan, MAP-E and DS-Lite have deployed well. 
However, one ISP(they have more than 3 million customer) is providing 
NAT64/DNS64 service to their customer. 
There is still NAT64 and DNS64 issues. 

Our company is providing CE router to telcos and retail market as well. 
If we support 108 option and PREF64, that will be big change. :-) 
Let's see how it goes. 

I'd like to support IPv6-mostly network as one of 464XLAT author 
and also as a CE router vender. 

Regards, 
Masanobu 


-----Original Message-----
From: v6ops <v6ops-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Mark Andrews
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2024 7:04 PM
To: Gert Doering <gert@space.net>
Cc: v6ops <v6ops@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [v6ops] IPv6 mostly for DS-Lite

So ISPs have to back out DS-lite and deploy NAT64 just so people can deploy IPv6 mostly. We have provided a number of IPV4AAS mechanisms which all work at the node level as well as CPE level.  It should be possible to support any of them. 

-- 
Mark Andrews

> On 20 Mar 2024, at 19:12, Gert Doering <gert@space.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 12:58:37PM +1100, Mark Andrews wrote:
>> Well people do use DS-Lite. Why should the be treated as second class citizens.
> 
> "people" don't.  ISPs do, as infrastructure, not visible to end devices.
> 
> Gert Doering
>        -- NetMaster
> -- 
> have you enabled IPv6 on something today...?
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