Re: [v6ops] IPv6 mostly for DS-Lite
Gert Doering <gert@space.net> Wed, 20 March 2024 10:56 UTC
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Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2024 11:56:06 +0100
From: Gert Doering <gert@space.net>
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] IPv6 mostly for DS-Lite
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Hi, On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 09:04:09PM +1100, Mark Andrews wrote: > So ISPs have to back out DS-lite and deploy NAT64 just so people can deploy IPv6 mostly. We have provided a number of IPV4AAS mechanisms which all work at the node level as well as CPE level. It should be possible to support any of them. Mmmh, now I get your point - "if there is no pre-existing NAT64 gateway due to use of DS-Lite, ISPs would have to change their infrastructure". I tend to disagree - NAT64 could happen on the CPE for ipv6-mostly "behind the CPE" networks, and then going ahead with DS-Lite'ing the resulting IPv4 packet. Yes, NAT4444, but for legacy things only. "What ISPs do" and "what is spoken in the LAN segment" is decoupled for good reasons. Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard, Michael Emmer, Ingo Lalla, Karin Schuler Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (0)89/32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279
- [v6ops] IPv6 mostly for DS-Lite Mark Andrews
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 mostly for DS-Lite Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 mostly for DS-Lite Mark Andrews
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 mostly for DS-Lite Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 mostly for DS-Lite Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 mostly for DS-Lite Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 mostly for DS-Lite Mark Andrews
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 mostly for DS-Lite Tim Chown
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 mostly for DS-Lite Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 mostly for DS-Lite Mark Andrews
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 mostly for DS-Lite Brian Candler
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 mostly for DS-Lite Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 mostly for DS-Lite Brian Candler
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 mostly for DS-Lite Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 mostly for DS-Lite Mark Andrews
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 mostly for DS-Lite Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 mostly for DS-Lite Ondřej Caletka
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 mostly for DS-Lite Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 mostly for DS-Lite Gabor LENCSE
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 mostly for DS-Lite Mark Andrews
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 mostly for DS-Lite Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 mostly for DS-Lite Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 mostly for DS-Lite Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 mostly for DS-Lite Kawashima Masanobu(川島 正伸)
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 mostly for DS-Lite Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 mostly for DS-Lite Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 mostly for DS-Lite Kawashima Masanobu(川島 正伸)