Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-6man-grand : saving lookups

Philip Homburg <pch-v6ops-9@u-1.phicoh.com> Sun, 09 August 2020 15:46 UTC

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Subject: Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-6man-grand : saving lookups
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> So what I'm after is the host behavior of "not onlink" for the
> lookup phase, the router behavior of onlink for the redirect phase,
> and the L bit set iff the link is P2P or a transit. E.g., in a
> distributed fabric, all addresses "reside on-link and can be reached
> directly without going through a router" and yet we want to avoid
> broadcast lookups.

Suppose we have a no-multicast bit, that tells a host to send traffic to
its default router when it doesn't have a neighbor in the NC cache.

It is not clear to me how the semantics would be different from clearing the
L-bit, but if you think there are considerable differences, why no write 
a draft that describes the use of such a bit.