Re: [VCARDDAV] Questions about vCard 4.0 (draft rev-11)

[Daisuke Miyakawa <[e-mail]>]

Hi,

I'm wondering who will have final decision on these kind of discussion, as
I'm a newbie in this ML.
Could someone tell me about it, or just point me some general guide line?

Thanks,

2010年6月24日9:31 Daisuke Miyakawa <[e-mail]>:

> +1 to Javier's plan
>
> 2010年6月24日6:35 Simon Perreault <[e-mail]>:
>
> On 06/23/2010 01:52 PM, Javier Godoy wrote:
>> > I though that FN was (1,n) because the name of the same person may be
>> > written in different languages (or scripts), and not because one person
>> > could have different names in the same language.
>>
>> No. See section 5.1:
>>
>>   Properties with different LANGUAGE parameters that represent the same
>>   data count as 1 toward cardinality and MUST have the same PID value
>>   if the PID parameter is used.  This is because there is logically a
>>   single property which is expressed in multiple languages.
>>
>> FN is plural because there may be multiple valid ways of representing
>> one's name. Some could be preferred.
>>
>> > On the other side, ORG
>> > is (0,n) not only because the name of the same organization may be given
>> > in different languages, but also because the same individual may be
>> > related to several organizations.
>>
>> ORG is (0,n) *only* because the same individual may be related to
>> several organizations.
>>
>> > I would use the preferred one, if the PREF parameter is provided. In
>> > case of tie, or if no SORT-STRING is provided,  would choose any of them
>> > (i.e. undefined)
>>
>> Yes, that's a valid algorithm. I suppose we'll leave this to the
>> implementors...
>>
>> >> Now, one thing that I like about your example is the use of the
>> LANGUAGE
>> >> tag. We need to at least add an example where the LANGUAGE tag is also
>> >> applied to the SORT-STRING property.
>> >
>> > LANGUAGE is not a parameter for SORT-STRING. Adding a LANGUAGE would
>> > allow different SORT-STRINGs for different languages while preserving
>> > (0,1) cardinality.
>>
>> Yup, that's exactly what I meant. But now I prefer Cyrus's suggestion
>> better. Let's make SORT-STRING a parameter.
>>
>> >> Example:
>> >>
>> >> ORG;LANGUAGE=ja:日本の組織  # "Japanese organization"
>> >> ORG;LANGUAGE=en:Japanese organization
>> >> ORG-SORT-STRING;LANGUAGE=ja:にほんのそしき
>> >>
>> >> (I'll figure out an equivalent example in French since we can't have
>> >> Japanese characters in RFCs...)
>> >
>> > I don't think there is an equivalent example in US-ASCII.
>>
>> Then you'll be surprised by what I come up with. ;)
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Simon
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