Re: [vwrap] [wvrap] Simulation consistency

["Patnad Babii" <[e-mail]>]

Let me put it simple, Linden Lab is not forced to use this protocol at ALL and I'm pretty sure as they are a pretty big company with brains, they are not going to allow something that’s going to reduce security or allow more thief to their grid anytime soon.

This protocol is intended mostly for other Open virtual worlds.  If at a point Linden Labs find it an interest in the protocol they might implement it. Linden Labs is not working anymore on grid interop for some time now, so please stop being afraid by the big bad wolf, cause it is not here you are going to find it. 


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Subject: Re: [vwrap] [wvrap] Simulation consistency

Vaughn,

A key reason the Metaverse construction cannot be left to coders and other technologists like yourself alone is this kind of coervice hypothesis, crowbarring a metaphor in service of a pre-existing agenda.

First of all, I don't make content of any significant amount as an amateur, such as to be concerned only about "my dresses" and "little dressmaker genocide" as copyleftist cynics call it. But I express this concern on behalf of my rentals customers who do make content and who are worried -- and rightly so -- about theft, and most of all, I express this as a *matter of principle*.

Second, the notion that girls travelling to a party at "Vaugh's Immersive Fabulousness" from "Prokofy's Palm Cafe At the End of the Mind" need not fear nakedness of Vaughn simply bestirs himself, *in good faith* (always in short supply with metaversal engineers), to automatically supply a generic dress or Ruth appearance and outfit in the event that the server can't fetch the assets for any reason. So that's specious entirely.

Third, if you think customers and their wants and inciting their hatred of platform providers who can't render their dresses in all their pretty glory are the way to hijack the metaverse for the copyleftist/open source cult agenda, think again. Dress shoppers can become fiercely loyal patrons of the copyright of their favourite designers. Fiercely.And they will mount the consumer boycott and press campaign to match their ferocity.

Fourth, If you have a world in which copying the dresses off avatars is a function of the browser you let connect to your world, like the copybotting Thugs Lyfe, merely with a mouseclick or two, then you deserve to be ostracized. And in fact, you and all providers can have a policy about not letting such TPV viewers connect, as LL does -- and without any pretense that it can control every manifestation. BTW, the Red Zone statistics of 9 million scans with only 78,000 rogue viewers captured lets us know that this problem is exaggerated -- and usually by engineers who claim there is no technical solution.

Fifth, and most relevant, the metaverse does not have to be built entirely on automatic machines that only perform rote routines, which are, indeed, only the mechanistic concretization of human will and "nothing special".

It can be also constructed of polices and agreements rooted in organic minds and organic institutions. And that's ok. And that would mean a basic charter, that could be as historical and epic as the Magna Charter or as mundane as the Bottle Bill of Rights hanging on the wall of your supermarket. And that charter would spell out that platforms that do not respect copyright *by including the engineered DRM on creations* and *by including a TPV policy* do not get the handshake, do not get the hookup. And that's it. It's not so hard, truly.

These treaties can be forged at real-life in-person conventions, just like other technical agreements are, including IEEE standards, and they can be forged ultimately in a "scaling" fashion by having templates that a server seeking to make a connection with have or not have, not withstanding Morgaine's wild and hysterical notions that "nothing" can be trusted on the Internet and trust regimes are all a scam.

It's not about Prokofy relinquishing control for the sake of his customers' eye candy. It's about two platforms shaking hands on an established pre-existing agreement that becomes the metaversal standard -- and a standard created not by a cabal of a few engineers in an obscure IEEF working group, but open conventions.

And please don't pretend this can't scale. There's about 17 and a half virtual worlds out there at most that really have any viability and people on them with stuff that works for the user. So they can make a confederation of standards that does respect the *technical implementation* of copyright and intellectual property rights *simply because they can*. It's a matter of political will, and its absence now is one of blatant collectivist ideology at work.

If you yourself opt to break your fabulous immersive world by not putting default dresses on people in decency, and more to the point, not abiding by a simple protocol to include DRM as a default with the "export to other grids" box and c/m/t boxes checked, and "TPV policy compliant" then you're the problem, not Prokofy's fear of crypto communists hiding under the servers.

You seem to be like all followers of the California Business Model (let all uploads first, sell ads, then DMCA takedowns later) -- and you seem to be willing to wait for your customers complain.

That's not necessary if you're an ethical provider -- you can make the agreements first. Forcing the issue by deploying the age-old "analog hole" argument and whining that you "must" serve up the view of an asset your customers "expect" to see or already "can" see doesn't let you off the hook. There is no reason to be literalist about it. You can weld c/m/t into operability from the get-go. You can refuse to allow viewers that copybot. Your resistance to this is purely ideological.

And BTW, if you persist in calling people who rightfully and legitimately raise copyright concerns and rightly and legitimately point out the copyleftist ideological bias as "paranoid" and "conspiracy theorists" and "fearful of cryptocommunists" and "McCarthyites" than you're going to go on being called the Leninists that you in fact are.

Prokofy




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