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Francesca Palombini <francesca.palombini@ericsson.com> Fri, 22 March 2024 01:20 UTC

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From: Francesca Palombini <francesca.palombini@ericsson.com>
To: Jay Daley <exec-director@ietf.org>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
CC: Laura Nugent <lnugent@amsl.com>, Stephanie McCammon <smccammon@amsl.com>, "team@meetecho.com" <team@meetecho.com>, Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com>, IETF WG Chairs <wgchairs@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: Follow up on disruptive person during IETF 119
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I appreciate that we would keep a “trust-based approach”, but I do think that WG chairs or at least ADs need to be able to not necessarily remove disruptive participant from a session, but definitely block a participant from sending audio/video for a longer amount of time, say a session (that is not switch their audio/video off) without necessarily going through the secretariat.

I also think we need to think about the same for chats, even if it was not a problem this time.

Francesca

From: iesg <iesg-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Jay Daley <exec-director@ietf.org>
Date: Friday, 22 March 2024 at 11:04
To: IETF WG Chairs <wgchairs@ietf.org>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
Cc: Laura Nugent <lnugent@amsl.com>, Stephanie McCammon <smccammon@amsl.com>, team@meetecho.com <team@meetecho.com>, Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com>
Subject: Follow up on disruptive person during IETF 119
IESG / WG Chairs

The background here is that we had one individual disrupt a number of sessions, including the plenary, and we were required to first temporarily ban them and then permanently ban them.

The meetings team (LLC, Secretariat, NOC, Meetecho, Tools) have discussed this and we propose the following way forward to manage similar instances in the future.

1.  Maintain a trust-based approach with an exception process, rather than introduce new controls to lock/unlock a whole session.  We think approach both maintains the permissive culture of the IETF and avoids extra complexity for WG Chairs.

2.  Add a new feature in Datatracker that allows the Secretariat to remove a participant from a session and more permanently.  The technical details here are that this feature will revoke their registration permissions and call a Meetecho API to remove them.

3.  For single session removal this new process can be invoked by a WG chair (of the session) or an AD, contacting the Secretariat.  Permanent removal can only be authorised by me or Roman, normally after rapid consultation with the IESG.

Does this work for everyone?

Jay

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