Re: [irsg] Follow up on disruptive person during IETF 119

[Bron Gondwana <[e-mail]>]

On Fri, Mar 22, 2024, at 14:22, Melinda Shore wrote:
> On 3/21/24 5:25 PM, Jay Daley wrote:
> > 2.  We’ve operated in a particular way for quite some time and this is 
> > first real issue we’ve had. Extrapolating from this to regular 
> > disruption is taking things too far.
> 
> I think that's correct.  Also, I've watched the video of the plenary
> and haven't seen the other sessions that were disrupted, but
> what I saw in the plenary looked clueless rather than malicious.
> The individual in question appeared to be a first-time
> participant, and it seems to me that if someone were feeling
> up to it it might not be a terrible idea to get in touch with
> this person, ask them if they're planning to continue to
> participate, and talk to them about IETF process.  They can't
> be allowed to disrupt meetings but otherwise a little forbearance
> seems appropriate[*[.

Clueless, yes - but also culturally incompatible with successfully performing work within the IETF's framework.

The begging "please give me another chance" after multiple people including Jay had multiple interactions with him and asked him nicely to behave was what really hit me.

For sure we need a "vexatious litigant" flag for somebody like that and some limited number of strikes before we can say "maybe the IETF is not the right body for you to make your contributions to the world".

Bron.


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