Re: [irsg] Follow up on disruptive person during IETF 119

[Toerless Eckert <[e-mail]>]

I would like to repeat what Adrian said, especially for the tools that we should be
able to control well ourselves:

We should as much as possible NOT constrain a person to consume our content based on behavior.
Only to contributing to it.

And yes, even in meetecho this may involve a bit more steps than simply not admitting
a person. Disallow to send video disallow to send audio, maybe disallow to even
show the users name/metadata (not sure if this could be abused for e.g.: obscene names or
the like).

And also +1 to Lou's comment on the notes tool and some way to exclude contributions to
a page by specific dattracker accounts. Not sure how to best do this, as there i usually
no identified notes page owner.

Cheers
    toerless

On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 11:35:37AM +1000, Reese Enghardt wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 3/22/24 11:19, Francesca Palombini wrote:
> > 
> > I appreciate that we would keep a “trust-based approach”, but I do think
> > that WG chairs or at least ADs need to be able to not necessarily remove
> > disruptive participant from a session, but definitely block a
> > participant from sending audio/video for a longer amount of time, say a
> > session (that is not switch their audio/video off) without necessarily
> > going through the secretariat.
> > 
> > I also think we need to think about the same for chats, even if it was
> > not a problem this time.
> > 
> I agree with Francesca here.
> 
> The individual in question was in one of the sessions I chaired.
> 
> I worked with Meetecho in the chat, and they said they're able to boot the
> participant if needed. This was fine for me, if stressful.
> 
> It'd be better if we as chairs had an easier way to do this, and definitely
> please don't make it harder. Having to contact the Secretariat while also
> chairing is definitely harder than just contacting Meetecho, we chat them
> for general audio/video issues anyways..
> 
> I noticed that in my next session as chair, I saw new controls to revoke
> audio/video from a participant (once, then they could start staring
> audio/video again). This feature is a good start, and it was sufficient to
> address the individual in question. Is this feature temporary or will it
> stay?
> 
> Also, big shout-out to the Meetecho folks for their great support in this
> matter!
> 
> Best,
> Reese

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