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Melinda Shore <melinda.shore@nomountain.net> Fri, 22 March 2024 18:09 UTC

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To: Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>, Jay Daley <exec-director@ietf.org>, IETF WG Chairs <wgchairs@ietf.org>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
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From: Melinda Shore <melinda.shore@nomountain.net>
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On 3/21/24 9:39 PM, Stephen Farrell wrote:
> But, I have a question: what does "permanently" mean in the above, for
> this person? My impression was of an individual who was confused about
> how to interact with the IETF and perhaps additionally confused as well.
> I'm not sure that their behaviour from this week warrants a lifetime
> ban from the IETF, in fact, I'm pretty sure it ought not.

That's my sense, as well.  Note that a chair can, in consultation
with their AD, impose a maximum of a one-month ban on someone for
disruptive mailing list behavior, but it can be shorter.  So,
there's one model.  Note that that policy was published as an IESG
statement.

IETF conduct policies are spread across a large number of IESG
statements, consensus documents, LLC policies, and so on, so as
part of onboarding new Ombudsteam members I put together a page
pulling them together: 
https://melindashore.github.io/2023/11/30/conduct-docs/.

Melinda

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Melinda Shore
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