Re: [106attendees] Power strips ?

Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> Thu, 21 November 2019 14:56 UTC

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From: Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>
To: Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu>
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Subject: Re: [106attendees] Power strips ?
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The idea was not to have different strips for differnent countries, so
drop the factor 5-6.

4000/6 * 10 USD/strip (cost in china) = 6666 USD.

Price for buying once is IMHO not the issues for a sponsor, shipping cos
by volume might be. Strips are not that bad, but the cables for each
of them adds to volume in a way thats hard to calculate.


On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 06:29:03PM +0800, Loa Andersson wrote:
> All,
> 
> I counted in Collyer, there are at least 70, if we need to have strips
> for 5-6 mayor countries that will be close 400, we have more than 10
> meeting rooms that brings the number of strips to 4000.
> 
> The example did cost of 20 USD, a total of 80 kUSD, which I think would
> have an impact on the meeting fee,
> 
> /Loa
> 
> On 21/11/2019 18:02, Ole Jacobsen wrote:
> > Then you have not counted the NUMBER of strips deployed!  :-)
> > 
> > Ole J. Jacobsen
> > Editor & Publisher
> > The Internet Protocol Journal
> > Cell: +1 415 370-4628
> > T-Mobile: +1 415 889-9821
> > Docomo: +81 90 3337 9311???
> > http://protocoljournal.org
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> > > On 21 Nov 2019, at 18:01, Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote:
> > > 
> > > ???On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 05:06:01PM +0800, Ole Jacobsen wrote:
> > > > The universal power strips are both legal and common in most of
> > > > Asia. The ???best??? ones have a power tail plugin for the part
> > > > that goes to the wall, so you carry the strip plus local power
> > > > cable. We got a bunch of these for APRICOT years ago and shipped
> > > > them from venue to venue along with our routers an WiFi kit.
> > > > 
> > > > But, honestly, personal one-port adapters work just fine. I
> > > > don???t really see a need to
> > > > burden the secretariat with more stuff.
> > > 
> > > I was hope we could simply attach them to the network gear shipment,
> > > where they shoud be a minor part and then let whoever installs the
> > > power-strips into meeing rooms these day use those poewr strips.
> > > Aka: this shouldn't involve secretariat.
> > > 
> > > Cheers
> > >    Toerless
> > > 
> > > > These adapters (UK version shown) are my personal favorites.
> > > > They have a universal ???face??? and localized plug PLUS a
> > > > splitter for US/EU:
> > > > 
> > > > AC POWER TRAVEL ADAPTER PLUG FOR UNITED KINGDOM UK ENGLAND
> > > > IRELAND SCOTLAND MALAYSIA HONG KONG / WITH DUAL PLUG-IN PORTS
> > > > AND SURGE PROTECTION / GROUNDED
> > > > 
> > > > https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00349OSOS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_GkL1Db3C8WQ7V
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Ole J. Jacobsen
> > > > Editor & Publisher
> > > > The Internet Protocol Journal
> > > > Cell: +1 415 370-4628
> > > > T-Mobile: +1 415 889-9821
> > > > Docomo: +81 90 3337 9311???
> > > > http://protocoljournal.org
> > > > 
> > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > > 
> > > > > On 21 Nov 2019, at 15:15, Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > ???
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I suspect venue isn???t going to allow power strips that
> > > > > > aren???t approved in their country.
> > > > > > Too much legal and safety risks for them.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > To me this would create a lot  of complexity and cost
> > > > > > for the secretariat and the IETF.
> > > > > > Not really warranted.  My plug adapters work fine.
> > > > > 
> > > > > As I noted, ICANN does it, and it works.  We could find out from them
> > > > > what sorts of costs and approvals are involved, but they don't seem to
> > > > > have problems with their not being allowed.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Barry