Re: [apps-discuss] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-shelby-exi-registration-01.txt

Ned Freed <ned.freed@mrochek.com> Fri, 13 April 2012 22:23 UTC

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Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-shelby-exi-registration-01.txt
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> On 4/13/2012 4:38 PM, Zach Shelby wrote:
> > Exactly. So now we are back to registering something like application/senml-exi (in addition to senml+xml and senml+json) where the schema information is included in the media type registration and no content-encoding is used. This would work for the applications I know of right now (SEP2 and SenML). Do we need to write up some kind of information guideline draft for including this kind of information in the media registration when OOB info needs to be defined (not just for EXI, but in general)?

> I'm thinking that a statement along these lines needs to go into
> draft-ietf-appsawg-media-type-regs (whose WGLC ends today) -- in other
> words, beef up the section on +suffix registration with text that helps
> people better understand when a +suffix should be used, and when it
> should *not* be used.

> I'll work with Ned on that.

After this exercise I have to agree that better text is needed.

				Ned