Re: [apps-discuss] WGLC on draft-ietf-appsawg-xdash-02.txt
Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> Wed, 14 December 2011 23:40 UTC
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To add to that -- I know of one implementation that does this today (treats HTTP headers that start with X- fundamentally differently), and I need this in there to bash them over the head. Doing so is very broken. Cheers, On 15/12/2011, at 10:27 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > On 12/9/11 12:03 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: >> On 12/9/11 11:54 AM, SM wrote: >>> At 09:19 09-12-2011, Alexey Melnikov wrote: >>>> I would like to initiate WGLC on draft-ietf-appsawg-xdash-02.txt. Due >>>> to holiday season the WGLC is going to be a long one and will end on >>>> January 6th. Please send any comments >>> >>> Please consider the comments below as nits. >>> >>> In Section 1: >>> >>> "Therefore this document deprecates the "X-" convention for most >>> application protocols and makes specific recommendations about >>> how to proceed in a world without the distinction between >>> standard and non-standard parameters." >>> >>> In Section 2, there is a "MUST NOT" for implementers of application >>> protocols. The "most" (see quoted text) is not taken into >>> consideration. The authors could get away with a "SHOULD" instead of a >>> "MUST". >> >> Good point. Thanks for the review! > > Aha, in looking at how to change the text I realize there might be a > disconnect. > > Section 2 states: > > Implementers of application protocols MUST NOT treat the general > categories of "standard" and "non-standard" parameters in > programatically different ways within their applications. > > The intent of that text is to say that it's not acceptable in your code > to search for the characters "x" and "-" at the beginning of every HTTP > header (or whatever) and take some programatically different action > based on the mere fact that some parameters start with those two > characters whereas others don't. The handling of any given parameter > needs to be based on the semantics of the parameter, not the mere > presence of "x" and "-" at the start of the name. > > Peter > > -- > Peter Saint-Andre > https://stpeter.im/ > > > _______________________________________________ > apps-discuss mailing list > apps-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/apps-discuss -- Mark Nottingham http://www.mnot.net/
- [apps-discuss] WGLC on draft-ietf-appsawg-xdash-0… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [apps-discuss] WGLC on draft-ietf-appsawg-xda… SM
- Re: [apps-discuss] WGLC on draft-ietf-appsawg-xda… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [apps-discuss] WGLC on draft-ietf-appsawg-xda… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [apps-discuss] WGLC on draft-ietf-appsawg-xda… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [apps-discuss] WGLC on draft-ietf-appsawg-xda… SM
- Re: [apps-discuss] WGLC on draft-ietf-appsawg-xda… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [apps-discuss] WGLC on draft-ietf-appsawg-xda… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [apps-discuss] WGLC on draft-ietf-appsawg-xda… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [apps-discuss] WGLC on draft-ietf-appsawg-xda… SM
- Re: [apps-discuss] WGLC on draft-ietf-appsawg-xda… t.petch
- Re: [apps-discuss] WGLC on draft-ietf-appsawg-xda… Murray S. Kucherawy
- [apps-discuss] X-Original (was: WGLC on draft-iet… SM
- Re: [apps-discuss] X-Original (was: WGLC on draft… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [apps-discuss] WGLC on draft-ietf-appsawg-xda… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [apps-discuss] WGLC on draft-ietf-appsawg-xda… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [apps-discuss] WGLC on draft-ietf-appsawg-xda… Zoltan Ordogh
- Re: [apps-discuss] WGLC on draft-ietf-appsawg-xda… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [apps-discuss] WGLC on draft-ietf-appsawg-xda… Zoltan Ordogh
- Re: [apps-discuss] WGLC on draft-ietf-appsawg-xda… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [apps-discuss] WGLC on draft-ietf-appsawg-xda… t.petch
- Re: [apps-discuss] WGLC on draft-ietf-appsawg-xda… Dave CROCKER
- Re: [apps-discuss] WGLC on draft-ietf-appsawg-xda… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [apps-discuss] WGLC on draft-ietf-appsawg-xda… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [apps-discuss] WGLC on draft-ietf-appsawg-xda… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [apps-discuss] WGLC on draft-ietf-appsawg-xda… Dave CROCKER
- Re: [apps-discuss] WGLC on draft-ietf-appsawg-xda… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [apps-discuss] WGLC on draft-ietf-appsawg-xda… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [apps-discuss] WGLC on draft-ietf-appsawg-xda… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [apps-discuss] WGLC on draft-ietf-appsawg-xda… Dave CROCKER
- Re: [apps-discuss] WGLC on draft-ietf-appsawg-xda… Dave CROCKER
- Re: [apps-discuss] WGLC on draft-ietf-appsawg-xda… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [apps-discuss] WGLC on draft-ietf-appsawg-xda… Dave CROCKER
- Re: [apps-discuss] WGLC on draft-ietf-appsawg-xda… t.petch
- Re: [apps-discuss] WGLC on draft-ietf-appsawg-xda… Dave CROCKER
- Re: [apps-discuss] WGLC on draft-ietf-appsawg-xda… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [apps-discuss] WGLC on draft-ietf-appsawg-xda… t.petch
- Re: [apps-discuss] WGLC on draft-ietf-appsawg-xda… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [apps-discuss] WGLC on draft-ietf-appsawg-xda… Dave CROCKER
- Re: [apps-discuss] WGLC on draft-ietf-appsawg-xda… Peter Saint-Andre