Re: [arch-d] Liaison reports (was: Domain-based Message Authentication, Reporting & Conformance (dmarc) WG Virtual Meeting: 2020-06-11)

Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> Mon, 18 May 2020 15:48 UTC

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Cc: Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com>, S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com>, architecture-discuss@ietf.org
To: Mirja Kuehlewind <ietf@kuehlewind.net>
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Subject: Re: [arch-d] Liaison reports (was: Domain-based Message Authentication, Reporting & Conformance (dmarc) WG Virtual Meeting: 2020-06-11)
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Mirja,

I suggest that the page at https://www.iab.org/liaisons/liaison-mgr-reports/ be updated with a note saying that there aren’t periodic reports and reports received are published in the minutes (and a link to the minutes).

Bob


> On May 14, 2020, at 2:08 PM, Mirja Kuehlewind <ietf@kuehlewind.net> wrote:
> 
> Hello S. Moonesamy,
> 
> Thanks for pointing this out. It seems that the page was not correctly taken over when the IAB webpage was moved to a new system in 2011. The pages are restored now. However, as you can see and as noticed on the IAB liaison page itself, we don’t have the practice of collecting periodic report anymore, for a while already.
> 
> As noted by Wes already, if reports are sent to the IAB or if liaison managers directly report in an IAB meeting, these are noted and published in the minutes instead.
> 
> Mirja
> 
> 
> 
>> On 13. May 2020, at 23:31, S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Dear IAB Chair,
>> 
>> I was searching for liaison reports.  Unfortunately, the link on the IAB web site ( https://www.iab.org/liaisons/liaison-mgr-reports/ ) is not working correctly.  I assume that the openness (Section 3.6 of RFC 2850) allows for those reports to be published.  Such reports could be useful information to people responding to IAB requests for comments on the IAB appointments.
>> 
>> I would appreciate if the IAB could consider my request to publish all the liaison reports.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> S. Moonesamy
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