Re: [Cats] CATS WG Adoption poll for draft-ldbc-cats-framework

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Thread-Topic: [Cats] CATS WG Adoption poll for draft-ldbc-cats-framework
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Subject: Re: [Cats] CATS WG Adoption poll for draft-ldbc-cats-framework
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Hi Hang, 

Thanks for the comments.

Please see inline.

Cheers,
Med

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Shihang(Vincent) <shihang9=40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
> Envoyé : lundi 26 février 2024 15:12
> À : adrian@olddog.co.uk; 'cats' <cats@ietf.org>
> Cc : draft-ldbc-cats-framework@ietf.org; cats-chairs@ietf.org
> Objet : RE: [Cats] CATS WG Adoption poll for draft-ldbc-cats-framework
> 
> Yes, as a contributor who participates in the refinement of the
> document multiple times in github, I support the adoption.
> 
> Yes I have reviewed the document(again with refreshed eyes) and have
> some comments:
> 
> 1. Section 2 Terminology: "CATS Instance Selector ID (CIS-ID):  An
> identifier of a specific service contact instance."
> 
> It looks like we are using two terms (Instance Selector and service
> contact instance) to refer to the same thing.
> 
> 2. Section 3.4.1 Is service sites and service contact instance 1:1?

[Med] We do say the following in Section 2:

      A service can be accessed via multiple service contact instances
      running at the same or different locations (service sites).

 If
> yes, why do we need the concept of the service site? And the service
> site in this section looks  different with the term defined in Section
> 2:
> 
> Section 2: Service site:  A location that hosts the resources that are
> required to offer a service.
> 
>       A service site may be a node or a set of nodes.
> 
>       A CATS-serviced site is a service site that is connected to a
> CATS-Forwarder.
> 
> VS:
> 
> Section 3.4.1: Service sites are the premises that host a set of
> computing resources.
> 
> 3. Section 4.4: However, it is expected that a
>    service request or local policy may feed the C-PS computation logic
>    with Objective Functions that provide some information about the
> path
>    characteristics (e.g., in terms of maximum latency) and the
> selected
>    service contact instance.
> 
> Is the objective function supposed to give the goal of the scheduling
> such as min(latency), min(standard deviation of site load) etc?

[Med] Yes, these are valid examples.

 If so,
> the information of the path and service contact instance is the input
> of the function not the function itself, right?

[Med] The computed path/service contact instance will be the output of the function.

> 
> Yes, I think the document is the right document to meet the milestone.
> It merges some content from other drafts. I think it reflects the
> community consensus of the CATS framework.
> 
> Thanks,
> Hang
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cats <cats-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Adrian Farrel
> Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2024 12:44 AM
> To: 'cats' <cats@ietf.org>
> Cc: draft-ldbc-cats-framework@ietf.org; cats-chairs@ietf.org
> Subject: [Cats] CATS WG Adoption poll for draft-ldbc-cats-framework
> 
> Hi CATS,
> 
> We have had IPR disclosure responses from all authors and
> contributors.
> All but one have indicated "no IPR", with the remaining one stating
> that there is IPR, but the company is doing a detailed analysis before
> filing a disclosure.
> 
> The working group has a milestone for "Adopt the CATS Framework and
> Architecture document"
> 
> So, we are going to start a two week adoption poll for the draft. This
> will end on 9th March at 9am GMT.
> 
> Please state your opinions on whether or not this document should be
> adopted. Authors and Contributors are also welcome to state their
> opinions.
> Recall that the document does not have to be perfect at this point: we
> are looking for a starting point that can be taken up by the WG and
> edited until it is complete and ready.
> 
> A simple yes or no is helpful, but doesn't carry much weight.
> 
> So, if "yes":
> - have you reviewed the document?
> - do you have any comments or editorial suggestions?
> - do you think this is the right document to meet the milestone?
> - why do you think this is a good document?
> 
> And, if "no":
> - what are your concerns?
> - what is your proposal to meet the milestone?
> 
> If the current IPR situation is a significant concern to you, you are
> welcome to state that.
> 
> Thanks,
> Adrian (for the chairs)
> 
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