Re: [Cats] CATS WG Adoption poll for draft-ldbc-cats-framework

"Julien Maisonneuve (Nokia)" <julien.maisonneuve@nokia.com> Fri, 08 March 2024 15:21 UTC

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From: "Julien Maisonneuve (Nokia)" <julien.maisonneuve@nokia.com>
To: "adrian@olddog.co.uk" <adrian@olddog.co.uk>, 'cats' <cats@ietf.org>
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Thread-Topic: CATS WG Adoption poll for draft-ldbc-cats-framework
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Subject: Re: [Cats] CATS WG Adoption poll for draft-ldbc-cats-framework
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Hello,

We're just a few hours away from the deadline of this WG adoption poll, and there is still no IPR disclosure in the IETF database even though at least one company has stated IPR claims that we know nothing about.
Is there a set date when this IPR declaration is expected to be available to WG members ? 
How much time will we get to analyze the impact of this declaration when/if it materializes ?
Are we expected to make a decision without any knowledge of the IPR ?
Considering these uncertainties, I would respectfully suggest to postpone the WG adoption deadline until the WG has a little more clarity on the nature and scope of the IPR claims.
Thanks for your attention.

Best regards,
Julien Maisonneuve, Nokia Corporate Standards.

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De: Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk>
Enviado el: viernes, 23 de febrero de 2024 17:44
Para: 'cats' <cats@ietf.org>
CC: draft-ldbc-cats-framework@ietf.org; cats-chairs@ietf.org
Asunto: CATS WG Adoption poll for draft-ldbc-cats-framework

Hi CATS,

We have had IPR disclosure responses from all authors and contributors.
All but one have indicated "no IPR", with the remaining one stating that there is IPR, but the company is doing a detailed analysis before filing a disclosure.

The working group has a milestone for "Adopt the CATS Framework and Architecture document"

So, we are going to start a two week adoption poll for the draft. This will end on 9th March at 9am GMT.

Please state your opinions on whether or not this document should be adopted. Authors and Contributors are also welcome to state their opinions.
Recall that the document does not have to be perfect at this point: we are looking for a starting point that can be taken up by the WG and edited until it is complete and ready.

A simple yes or no is helpful, but doesn't carry much weight.

So, if "yes":
- have you reviewed the document?
- do you have any comments or editorial suggestions?
- do you think this is the right document to meet the milestone?
- why do you think this is a good document?

And, if "no":
- what are your concerns?
- what is your proposal to meet the milestone?

If the current IPR situation is a significant concern to you, you are welcome to state that.

Thanks,
Adrian (for the chairs)
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