Re: [clouds] Use cases

DMTF with OVF is the primary group for Virtual Machine format &  
exchange for IaaS.   Look for that to evolve into something that will  
allow some abstractions for policy - security.  Given the dynamic  
nature of cloud today, the more abstraction that is allowed the  
better.   This will enable demand to grow and the use-cases to expand  
and viable services to be offered.

The cloud incubator effort, (in DMTF) looks to be spawning several  
other working groups.  Three different APIs have been submitted to the  
cloud incubator and look like a working group will be created to look  
at that.  There are several ways to look at the API user role and/or  
use-case of APIs.  I think DMTF focus will remain IaaS initially for  
the APIs as well.

For Security, Cloud Security Alliance is the clearing house for best  
practices, potential certification process in Cloud Audit.  These may  
end up serving the industry as the security focal point.  There are  
likely _most_ of the components for security existing today in various  
SDO.  So, this profiles (or frameworks) for security are what is most  
needed right now IMO.

Most of my comments are IaaS focused.  I believe PaaS and SaaS are too  
ill defined with no center of gravity to be something mature enough to  
consider standardization yet.  What the industry wants and will  
support in a functional, technical and business models from PaaS and  
SaaS has some design, use and clarification before we will know what  
is worth locking up IMO.

Mark Webb
On Apr 7, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Gene Golovinsky wrote:

> Mark.
> I would agree with  that.
> Like you said there are several initiatives going on in SNIA and TOG  
> for example.
>
> I do not see, however, interoperability/API, data exchange formats  
> and security covered anywhere.
>
> --Gene
>
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> From: Mark Webb [mailto:mwebb@cisco.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 10:09 AM
> To: clouds@ietf.org
> Cc: Peter Saint-Andre; Gene Golovinsky
> Subject: Re: [clouds] Use cases
>
> I was not there at the BoF, but did get reports from a couple of  
> people in attendance.
>
> An important perspective is to ensure IETF does NOT start a new  
> effort that overlaps with other SDO and Forum already underway.  The  
> industry does not need more SDO declaring they are relevant to cloud  
> computing IMO.
>
> Seeking contributions on relevant & IETF appropriate gap analysis is  
> the _most_ that should be pursued at this point in time.
>
> Mark Webb
>
>
> On Apr 7, 2010, at 10:57 AM, Gene Golovinsky wrote:
>
>
> Well, I think this is a topic worthy of IETF time and attention.
> How can I help to move the discussion forward?
>
> Was there any specific area out of the white paper discussed?
> I think Cloud interoperability and security are topics were IETF is  
> traditionally focusing its efforts.
>
> --Gene
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: clouds-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:clouds-bounces@ietf.org] On  
> Behalf Of Peter Saint-Andre
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 9:48 AM
> To: clouds@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [clouds] Use cases
>
> On 4/7/10 8:40 AM, Gene Golovinsky wrote:
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> >    2. I saw references to bar BoF at last IETF meeting, but could  
> not
> >       really figure out if the WG was chartered.
>
> It was a bar BoF, not a real BoF. And IMHO the discussion was so  
> nebulous that folks are a long way from forming a WG.
>
> Peter
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> Peter Saint-Andre
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