[clouds] Scope of the Cloud is too big

I attended the CLOUD's bar BOF. I don't think it is appropriate for IETF to
have a working group on "CLOUD" because it means different things to
different people. Cloud computing is a general term for anything that
involves delivering services over the Internet. I can see three basic
categories: 

*     Infrastructure-as-a-Service (
<http://searchcloudcomputing.techtarget.com/sDefinition/0,290660,sid201_gci1
358983,00.html> IaaS),

*     Platform-as-a-Service (
<http://searchcloudcomputing.techtarget.com/sDefinition/0,,sid201_gci1332892
,00.html> PaaS) and 

*     Software-as-a-Service (
<http://searchcloudcomputing.techtarget.com/sDefinition/0,290660,sid201_gci1
170781,00.html> SaaS)

There are a lot of stuff under each of the categories above. I suggest
separating them and further studying if there are enough contents for one of
them to become a working group. 

Linda Dunbar 

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From: clouds-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:clouds-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
Mark Webb
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 10:09 AM
To: clouds@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [clouds] Use cases

I was not there at the BoF, but did get reports from a couple of people in
attendance.

An important perspective is to ensure IETF does NOT start a new effort that
overlaps with other SDO and Forum already underway.  The industry does not
need more SDO declaring they are relevant to cloud computing IMO.  

Seeking contributions on relevant & IETF appropriate gap analysis is the
_most_ that should be pursued at this point in time.

Mark Webb

On Apr 7, 2010, at 10:57 AM, Gene Golovinsky wrote:

Well, I think this is a topic worthy of IETF time and attention.
How can I help to move the discussion forward?

Was there any specific area out of the white paper discussed?
I think Cloud interoperability and security are topics were IETF is
traditionally focusing its efforts.

--Gene

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From: clouds-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:clouds-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
Peter Saint-Andre
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 9:48 AM
To: clouds@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [clouds] Use cases

On 4/7/10 8:40 AM, Gene Golovinsky wrote:

>    2. I saw references to bar BoF at last IETF meeting, but could not
>       really figure out if the WG was chartered.

It was a bar BoF, not a real BoF. And IMHO the discussion was so nebulous
that folks are a long way from forming a WG.

Peter

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